
Gisher |

David knott 242 wrote:
As I recall, whenever a PF2 ability mentions touching somebody, it either happens automatically if you are adjacent to them or requires the target to make a saving throw. If you are making an attack roll, you are doing more than merely touching them.
Shocking Grasp has a range of touch and requires an attack roll.

The Gleeful Grognard |

"A spell with a range of touch requires you to physically touch the target. You use your unarmed reach to determine whether you can touch the creature. You can usually touch the target automatically, though the spell might specify that the target can attempt a saving throw or that you must attempt a spell attack roll. If an ability increases the range of a touch spell, start at 0 feet and increase from there."

HammerJack |
Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

Well, that, and the fact that monster AC isn't broken into components to calculate a separate AC for touch. And the part where a wildly divergent AC like touch used to be for big enemies would basically mean automatic crit instead of automatic hit in this system.