Tank cleric of Arshea

[TheMilestone]

I'm looking at devising an outstanding tank and buffer cleric.

- Going to dump CHA and take the Foundation of Faith archetype to make me a bit more SAD.
- Samsaran to grab Mirror Image off the Adept list
- Worshipping Arshea gets me the following domains:

Charm (Love sudomain) = the excellent Adoration and then later, swift action Charm Person via Charming Smile

Liberation (maybe Freedom subdomain) = eventually effectively immune to anything that would stop or hinder me from moving normally

With the putting extra ability points into CON for better HP and FORT save + Mirror Image pre-buff + domain powers + bit of regen ability from archetype + making sure I armour and shield up, I reckon that's about as good a tank build as I can get.

Any thoughts on alternatives or improvements?

[*Khan*]

Feels counter intuitive to drop cha and take charm (love) domain.

Your tank/love idea needs cha in my opinion. Perhaps paladin, Oracle or Inqusitor would be a better chassis for this build?

[avr]

Huh. In mechanics the most notable feature of worshiping Arshea is the ability to get Cha to AC when not wearing armor (or anything much). It's very much their signature image. I was not expecting a max-Con, Cha-dumping tank wearing the most armor possible.

"I'm a cleric of Arshea!" "Yeah, right."

In mechanics yes that looks solid though.

[JiaYou]

The tricky part of that is that a Divine Paragon of Arshea will only get that ability at level 11.

The Sacred Attendant Cleric Archetype was practically purpose built for Arshea, and gets dodge bonuses to AC as you level up if you're unarmored/unencumbered.

I had the idea of a UMonk 1/Sacred Attendant X of Arshea: Essentially someone who tried to let go of all worldly attachments, but was always just a little too tempted by the pleasures of the flesh. But upon realizing there was a deity who encouraged her followers to exult in these pleasures, he dove right into these practices.

Honestly, you're looking at minimum 17 AC from level 2 (first level of Sacred Attendant, and it'll keep going up), and taking Crane Style and other things to boost defensive-fighting prowess only sends that up...and if you've got a spellcaster who can cast Mage Armor on yourself, hoo boy. I suppose Samsaran still works here for Mirror Image as well.

15-point buy is tricky to pull off both the flavor and stats (although a 7-CHA devotee of Arshea could be "that guy who is TOO proud of his conquests") but it's something I very much considered going with for a future character.

[TheMilestone]

I think some of you are confused!

I am not intending to take the Divine Paragon archetype, and so boons are not a consideration. My choice of Arshea was based on it being the only deity that I am aware of that gets both Charm and Liberation domains.

[avr]

No, I got you. It's just the flavour oddness. This is who you're going to worship:

Spoiler:

Arshea is worshipped by artisans, courtesans, some fey, and those seeking to escape repression. They eschew gender roles and often pretend to be members of the opposite sex, which they consider to overcome oppression and understand freedom, choosing the most fitting gender after this period of experimentation. Arshea teaches them to abandon constraining beliefs and practice free love and sexuality.

The Spirit of Abandon's temples are most likely found in artist's studios, burlesque parlors, and dance halls. Arshea's most devout followers endeavor to achieve sexual release daily (either solo or with partners), praise the beauty of the partners and self, and pray to Arshea while naked.

As I said, the mechanics of what you're doing here check out.

[*Khan*]

avr wrote:

No, I got you. It's just the flavour oddness. This is who you're going to worship:

** spoiler omitted **
As I said, the mechanics of what you're doing here check out.

Jep - quite the tank...

Please choose a god with beliefes you like to roleplay - else it will only be the mechanics.

[zza ni]

if you plan on being a cleric who wields a shield (and possibly a weapon in your main hand). id advice getting the claw-hand shield asap so you can cast spells with the hand holding the shield without all the problems of sheathing\dropping your weapon etc.

hack with no acp\arcane fail i suggest this shield for any caster even if not proficient.
and it auto hit if your grappled\swollen whole. this is pure gold item.

[LordKailas]

avr wrote:

No, I got you. It's just the flavour oddness. This is who you're going to worship:

** spoiler omitted **
As I said, the mechanics of what you're doing here check out.

To be fair, I could see a low cha character wishing to worship such a deity. The character is going through life being repulsed by everyone they meet, except members of this church who offer them praise and pleasure.

There's nothing to say that such a character may even attempt to compliment others but their words just come out wrong.

"oy! your boils really bring out the puss in yer eyes. You're lovelier then ah slug on a rainy day. Wanna come back to my place? I ken show ye some scabs the likes of which ye never seen"

[JiaYou]

LordKailas wrote:

avr wrote:

No, I got you. It's just the flavour oddness. This is who you're going to worship:

** spoiler omitted **
As I said, the mechanics of what you're doing here check out.

To be fair, I could see a low cha character wishing to worship such a deity. The character is going through life being repulsed by everyone they meet, except members of this church who offer them praise and pleasure.

There's nothing to say that such a character may even attempt to compliment others but their words just come out wrong.

"oy! your boils really bring out the puss in yer eyes. You're lovelier then ah slug on a rainy day. Wanna come back to my place? I ken show ye some scabs the likes of which ye never seen"

That sounds like a perfect Goblin or 5 Cha Dwarf idea...