No Magical Synergy?


Mech


My understanding is that a spellcaster piloting a mech has no line of effect to the outside and so can't use 90% of their spells. Given that the complaints that starship combat had nothing for spellcasters to do ultimately lead to mystical weapons and the magic officer position it seems odd that mechs have nothing equivalent.


I suppose you could add a riding saddle so you can throw spells from outside the mech.

I think more on target would be ways to feed spell slots into mech buffs with certain systems. There's already a power core that lets you add PP to a mech with spell slots.


Spellcasters couldn't use *100%* of their spells in starship combat, line of effect or not, because their spells would have no effect on ships, your own or others. Not having read the mech playtest rules yet, is there any reason to believe that character-scale magic would be any more useful against mechs than against ships?


Metaphysician wrote:
Spellcasters couldn't use *100%* of their spells in starship combat, line of effect or not, because their spells would have no effect on ships, your own or others. Not having read the mech playtest rules yet, is there any reason to believe that character-scale magic would be any more useful against mechs than against ships?

Because they are creature scale that use standard rules for combat. Their magic functions just fine against targets that can easily overpower most mechs, like a Kyokor, if you want a logical in game reason.


Metaphysician wrote:
Spellcasters couldn't use *100%* of their spells in starship combat, line of effect or not, because their spells would have no effect on ships, your own or others. Not having read the mech playtest rules yet, is there any reason to believe that character-scale magic would be any more useful against mechs than against ships?

I assume that typically you're using mechs to fight an enemy that would usually be a TPK for your party level. There are spells with useful effects even when your enemy's saving throws are godlike. I'm not sure quite how many there are, but I know they exist.


With the escape hatch upgrade you could always use move to go out, cast a spell with standard and spend a resolve to get back in with your swift action or haste.

Can you cast spells on the other operator while inside the mech?
When you have mixed mech and foot combat, mechs would be a very good way to hide injured teammates. Just switch out the operators when one gets injured.
Also, can normal vehicles mount mech weapons? Or can a huge power armor use a mechs sword?
I can gurantee you that will come up.


Ixal wrote:

With the escape hatch upgrade you could always use move to go out, cast a spell with standard and spend a resolve to get back in with your swift action or haste.

The Escape Hatch upgrade is probably gonna be a must in most of my mech builds because of this.

Granted, going outside in a mech battle is a bad idea because everything's on average 3 levels above what you typically handle but that's part of the charm for me

Ixal wrote:


Also, can normal vehicles mount mech weapons? Or can a huge power armor use a mechs sword?

I think most of the mech weapons are integrated for this reason.


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the Aeon Core lets operators expend spell slots to recover power points. Though level 1 spell slots are useless for this.


Krowmeat wrote:

Ixal wrote:


Also, can normal vehicles mount mech weapons? Or can a huge power armor use a mechs sword?

I think most of the mech weapons are integrated for this reason.

Most, but not all. The sword has the thrown property for example.


You guys are right... There's no option for spellcasters to cast their spells while piloting mechs, when I'm pretty sure some spells would work on them...

How about an auxillary system that would allow that?


Another question is, can the operator cast spells on the mech from the inside?

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Ixal wrote:
Another question is, can the operator cast spells on the mech from the inside?

You have a line of effect with the mech while in the mech. Do you believe there is a reason that it would not?


NightTrace wrote:
Ixal wrote:
Another question is, can the operator cast spells on the mech from the inside?
You have a line of effect with the mech while in the mech. Do you believe there is a reason that it would not?

Do you have line of effect to other operators in the mech? Are you in touch range to other operators? Can you move to touch range, or is it impossible?

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