Caster Multi-Class and Scroll Level


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I am a martial character. I take a casting dedication, for example Wizard, at second level.

Table 11-3, on page 566 of the CRB, lists a scroll for a second level spell as a character level 3 item.

At third level would I be able to caste a level two arcane spell from a scroll, even though I can only cast cantrips from the multi-class dedication?


Nothing in the "Casting a Spell forma Scroll" section says you must be able to cast spells of the scroll's level.

The spell must be on your spell list and the moment you take the caster dedication, you are trained in that magic tradition's spell list.

So I don't see any reason why you wouldn't be able to cast any spell (of your tradition) from a scoll.

There's also no limit to caracter level. You could cast Time Stop from a scroll at character level 3 if you somehow got your hands on a scroll for that.

Verdant Wheel

Congratulations!

You discovered the other benefit of MCD!


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Blave wrote:

Nothing in the "Casting a Spell forma Scroll" section says you must be able to cast spells of the scroll's level.

The spell must be on your spell list and the moment you take the caster dedication, you are trained in that magic tradition's spell list.

So I don't see any reason why you wouldn't be able to cast any spell (of your tradition) from a scoll.

There's also no limit to caracter level. You could cast Time Stop from a scroll at character level 3 if you somehow got your hands on a scroll for that.

Thanks for the clarification. I honestly have some issues adjusting from 1e, with regards to how much nicer 2e is many regards.


rainzax wrote:

Congratulations!

You discovered the other benefit of MCD!

Yeah, MCD seem like a quick way to try to break 2e, even if just a little bit.


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Mad Gene Vane wrote:
rainzax wrote:

Congratulations!

You discovered the other benefit of MCD!

Yeah, MCD seem like a quick way to try to break 2e, even if just a little bit.

MCD is quite a tradeoff and for many the benefits don't seem amazing. But in reality it opens up a hell of a lot if people start thinking of it as broadened flexibility rather than enhanced speciality.

It still feels weird that one of my players is a sorcerer with a champion dedication who spends most of his battle time transformed.

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The Gleeful Grognard wrote:
Mad Gene Vane wrote:
rainzax wrote:

Congratulations!

You discovered the other benefit of MCD!

Yeah, MCD seem like a quick way to try to break 2e, even if just a little bit.

MCD is quite a tradeoff and for many the benefits don't seem amazing. But in reality it opens up a hell of a lot if people start thinking of it as broadened flexibility rather than enhanced speciality.

It still feels weird that one of my players is a sorcerer with a champion dedication who spends most of his battle time transformed.

One of the things that I love about this edition is that so many options make the character more flexible and NOT more powerful. And have only a small cost (if any) in terms of power. Allows those of us who like flexibility to have our fun while also allowing those who just want to "do whatever focused thing" to also have their fun AND we both play well together (neither out shining the other)

MCing is definitely a major tool (although not the only one) that allows this.

But I agree it sometimes feels strange in world as I see a LOT of MCing done purely for the mechanical benefits. I constantly run into Champions in PFS where the player has to look at their character sheet to remember who they worship :-(


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pauljathome wrote:
But I agree it sometimes feels strange in world as I see a LOT of MCing done purely for the mechanical benefits. I constantly run into Champions in PFS where the player has to look at their character sheet to remember who they worship :-(

Hopefully the Bastion archetype in APG will cut down on these situations.

Verdant Wheel

Mad Gene Vane wrote:
rainzax wrote:

Congratulations!

You discovered the other benefit of MCD!

Yeah, MCD seem like a quick way to try to break 2e, even if just a little bit.

We'll see how much more "break" we get with the upcoming Scrollmaster archetype too!

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