The Next Book?


Pathfinder Second Edition General Discussion


So since were getting the APG this Gencon season and last year they announced it then, it makes me wonder if we'll get a similar reveal this year. To that end, what are people hoping for/expecting?

I've got my fingers crossed for a "fringe" book. Psychic casters, guns, classes with the Arcanist style of casting. Summoner/spiritualist hybrid. All the stuff that's weird and out there and maybe not for every campaign, but that we're presently "missing"


TheGoofyGE3K wrote:

So since were getting the APG this Gencon season and last year they announced it then, it makes me wonder if we'll get a similar reveal this year. To that end, what are people hoping for/expecting?

I've got my fingers crossed for a "fringe" book. Psychic casters, guns, classes with the Arcanist style of casting. Summoner/spiritualist hybrid. All the stuff that's weird and out there and maybe not for every campaign, but that we're presently "missing"

Their future books are being themed apparently and are less like the first run of PF1e books

I would expect something to do with plannar, horror, nature or warfare/battle first.

I wouldn't expect guns yet, and I wouldn't expect psychic stuff before an occult/horror themed book.

Silver Crusade

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The Book With Guns In It.


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Probably firearms at least given the demand, I'd expect to see a playtest in the Fall, but either way its more than likely something with classes for the big gen-con announcement, given some of the hinting we've already seen.


Guess I was talking out of my ass with what I posted in the other thread. Here I thought the additional ancestries were going to be the "big" book for next year.

"Technically we've already gotten it; we're getting a book filled to the brim with ancestries. Kitsune, Androids, Fleshwarps (yes, what Drow do to their prisoners); even tiny (literally) Pixies. All of those and even more, the entire book will be focused on these and other "niche" ancestries with no new material for the core ones.

It's going to be released in February of 2021."

Silver Crusade

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Lost Omens Ancestry Guide is the spring 2021 book. What we're waiting for is the Gencon 2021 hardcover announcement, which usually happens at the GenCon a year before.


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I'm hoping for a hardcover that covers Technology. It could cover guns, future tech, primitive weapons, clockwork, steampunk, magitek, etc. I think it would open a lot of venues for play.


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I'm hoping for guns and tech to open the world up a bit.


I’m trying to guess what kind of book would have the Shifter class but not be a repeat of Ultimate Wilderness. Some kind of general exploration book maybe? I’d rather an Equipment focused book, but the hint that the Shifter might be in the next batch of classes threw me.

Unless I was reading to much into that article, which is certainly possible.


NGL I'd be down for Shifter. It seems to have gotten a lot of hate around here but conceptually it's a really cool class. Imagine them taking ideas like Animal Instinct or Wild Morph and turning them up to 11. Or just generally expanding on them.


I have written of this elsewhere, and have read other people say similar, but I personally think that something like shifter would be a really cool ancestry. It could be a cool way to appease a lot of the playerbase - the ones who like oddball animal races, and the ones who dislike animal races. The way that ancestries are a pool of feat choices, you could make the feat choices similar to a familiars. You can pick a feat for, I dunno, being especially big and get a bonus to hp, and a feat for terrain expertise in savanah or something. Then you say my PC is a giraffe person. Bamn, that one guy who has dreamed his whole life that he could be a giraffe man in a ttrpg gets his wish. Meanwhile, all those animal races are out of the way, so half the races that come out that are animals that a part of the playerbase hates, are out of the way so more traditional fantasy races can be added.


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Gaulin wrote:
I have written of this elsewhere, and have read other people say similar, but I personally think that something like shifter would be a really cool ancestry. It could be a cool way to appease a lot of the playerbase - the ones who like oddball animal races, and the ones who dislike animal races. The way that ancestries are a pool of feat choices, you could make the feat choices similar to a familiars. You can pick a feat for, I dunno, being especially big and get a bonus to hp, and a feat for terrain expertise in savanah or something. Then you say my PC is a giraffe person. Bamn, that one guy who has dreamed his whole life that he could be a giraffe man in a ttrpg gets his wish. Meanwhile, all those animal races are out of the way, so half the races that come out that are animals that a part of the playerbase hates, are out of the way so more traditional fantasy races can be added.

You're thinking Skinwalkers, a race that existed well before the Shifter did. One that, sadly, didn't work too well with Shifter on account of both of them requiring a combination of move action + standard action to use both transformations.

I myself would also love to see Skinwalker become an Ancestry- or even a Heritage with a large number of Lineages- but I don't think it's at all satisfactory to replace an entire class like the Shifter.


Inquisitive Tiefling wrote:
I myself would also love to see Skinwalker become an Ancestry- or even a Heritage with a large number of Lineages- but I don't think it's at all satisfactory to replace an entire class like the Shifter.

See for me I would rather a versatile ancestry with dedications tied to it via access.

I really dislike shifter as a class concept vs an expansion of an existing class. It is too narrow and was never really explained well enough as anything other than floating mechanics in PF1e imo (floating bad mechanics in PF1e too -laughs-)


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Put my name down for a book with all the tech. Be it Numerian, mana waste, Thassilonian ect.

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I'm going to say make it Magic themed so I can get Dat Magus

Silver Crusade

Yes, I would be up for a hardcover book that had the Magus in it or perhaps another Campaign world like Tian or Arcadia?

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