
TheGoofyGE3K |

So since were getting the APG this Gencon season and last year they announced it then, it makes me wonder if we'll get a similar reveal this year. To that end, what are people hoping for/expecting?
I've got my fingers crossed for a "fringe" book. Psychic casters, guns, classes with the Arcanist style of casting. Summoner/spiritualist hybrid. All the stuff that's weird and out there and maybe not for every campaign, but that we're presently "missing"

The Gleeful Grognard |

So since were getting the APG this Gencon season and last year they announced it then, it makes me wonder if we'll get a similar reveal this year. To that end, what are people hoping for/expecting?
I've got my fingers crossed for a "fringe" book. Psychic casters, guns, classes with the Arcanist style of casting. Summoner/spiritualist hybrid. All the stuff that's weird and out there and maybe not for every campaign, but that we're presently "missing"
Their future books are being themed apparently and are less like the first run of PF1e books
I would expect something to do with plannar, horror, nature or warfare/battle first.
I wouldn't expect guns yet, and I wouldn't expect psychic stuff before an occult/horror themed book.

Inquisitive Tiefling |

Guess I was talking out of my ass with what I posted in the other thread. Here I thought the additional ancestries were going to be the "big" book for next year.
"Technically we've already gotten it; we're getting a book filled to the brim with ancestries. Kitsune, Androids, Fleshwarps (yes, what Drow do to their prisoners); even tiny (literally) Pixies. All of those and even more, the entire book will be focused on these and other "niche" ancestries with no new material for the core ones.
It's going to be released in February of 2021."

AnimatedPaper |

I’m trying to guess what kind of book would have the Shifter class but not be a repeat of Ultimate Wilderness. Some kind of general exploration book maybe? I’d rather an Equipment focused book, but the hint that the Shifter might be in the next batch of classes threw me.
Unless I was reading to much into that article, which is certainly possible.

Gaulin |

I have written of this elsewhere, and have read other people say similar, but I personally think that something like shifter would be a really cool ancestry. It could be a cool way to appease a lot of the playerbase - the ones who like oddball animal races, and the ones who dislike animal races. The way that ancestries are a pool of feat choices, you could make the feat choices similar to a familiars. You can pick a feat for, I dunno, being especially big and get a bonus to hp, and a feat for terrain expertise in savanah or something. Then you say my PC is a giraffe person. Bamn, that one guy who has dreamed his whole life that he could be a giraffe man in a ttrpg gets his wish. Meanwhile, all those animal races are out of the way, so half the races that come out that are animals that a part of the playerbase hates, are out of the way so more traditional fantasy races can be added.

Inquisitive Tiefling |
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I have written of this elsewhere, and have read other people say similar, but I personally think that something like shifter would be a really cool ancestry. It could be a cool way to appease a lot of the playerbase - the ones who like oddball animal races, and the ones who dislike animal races. The way that ancestries are a pool of feat choices, you could make the feat choices similar to a familiars. You can pick a feat for, I dunno, being especially big and get a bonus to hp, and a feat for terrain expertise in savanah or something. Then you say my PC is a giraffe person. Bamn, that one guy who has dreamed his whole life that he could be a giraffe man in a ttrpg gets his wish. Meanwhile, all those animal races are out of the way, so half the races that come out that are animals that a part of the playerbase hates, are out of the way so more traditional fantasy races can be added.
You're thinking Skinwalkers, a race that existed well before the Shifter did. One that, sadly, didn't work too well with Shifter on account of both of them requiring a combination of move action + standard action to use both transformations.
I myself would also love to see Skinwalker become an Ancestry- or even a Heritage with a large number of Lineages- but I don't think it's at all satisfactory to replace an entire class like the Shifter.

The Gleeful Grognard |

I myself would also love to see Skinwalker become an Ancestry- or even a Heritage with a large number of Lineages- but I don't think it's at all satisfactory to replace an entire class like the Shifter.
See for me I would rather a versatile ancestry with dedications tied to it via access.
I really dislike shifter as a class concept vs an expansion of an existing class. It is too narrow and was never really explained well enough as anything other than floating mechanics in PF1e imo (floating bad mechanics in PF1e too -laughs-)