Morrigna Shape Change


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

Hello, one of my players just learned Greater Planar Ally and as a follower of Pharasma, he wanted to call a Morrigna as an ally. This all worked out well but when going over the stat block of the Psychopomp I saw it has the shape change ability and it says any Humanoid or Animal. It does not list a proper spell to replicate it however.

Am I missing something? or should the Morrigna be able to replicate Alter Self and beast Shape I-IV?
But Giants are also humanoids, should she be able to use Giant shape?
The Shape Change ability says it is a polymorph effect and the exact spell will be determined in the stat block.

I am not too concerned for it being over powered with some better polymorph abilities, given the nature of adventure, the party needs all the help they can get.

Adventure Path Spoiler:
Iron Gods Book 6 is very deadly, and they are nearing a fight with a 20th level cleric as well as an Ancient Dragon. Plus, no summoning once they are in the Dungeon due to a massive Dimensional lock over the entire zone.


Falcar wrote:

Hello, one of my players just learned Greater Planar Ally and as a follower of Pharasma, he wanted to call a Morrigna as an ally. This all worked out well but when going over the stat block of the Psychopomp I saw it has the shape change ability and it says any Humanoid or Animal. It does not list a proper spell to replicate it however.

Am I missing something? or should the Morrigna be able to replicate Alter Self and beast Shape I-IV?
But Giants are also humanoids, should she be able to use Giant shape?
The Shape Change ability says it is a polymorph effect and the exact spell will be determined in the stat block.

I am not too concerned for it being over powered with some better polymorph abilities, given the nature of adventure, the party needs all the help they can get.

** spoiler omitted **

Yes the giant apply in the transformation

But first question he wanted that kind of planar ally? Do he know hi/her name to summons her?
Because you summons an ally decided by the gm onless you know her true name
Second what payment did he offer for the help?

Liberty's Edge

He is a Sacred Servant Paladin who I allowed to worship Pharasma. Your god sends an ally that it chooses, so the Lady of Graves knew a Morrigana would be helpful in this option.


Falcar wrote:
He is a Sacred Servant Paladin who I allowed to worship Pharasma. Your god sends an ally that it chooses, so the Lady of Graves knew a Morrigana would be helpful in this option.

Ok but unless you say to me that he do the obedience ritual every day it's ok; but if not, Pharasma will send other ally to him because she hate undead not dragon

Dark Archive

change shape special quality

functions as polymorph spell

Change Shape (Su)
A creature with this special quality has the ability to assume the appearance of a specific creature or type of creature (usually a humanoid), but retains most of its own physical qualities. A creature cannot change shape to a form more than one size category smaller or larger than its original form. This ability functions as a polymorph spell, the type of which is listed in the creature’s description, but the creature does not adjust its ability scores (although it gains any other abilities of the creature it mimics). Unless otherwise stated, it can remain in an alternate form indefinitely. Some creatures, such as lycanthropes, can transform into unique forms with special modifiers and abilities. These creatures do adjust their ability scores, as noted in their descriptions.


Name Violation wrote:

change shape special quality

functions as polymorph spell

Change Shape (Su)
A creature with this special quality has the ability to assume the appearance of a specific creature or type of creature (usually a humanoid), but retains most of its own physical qualities. A creature cannot change shape to a form more than one size category smaller or larger than its original form. This ability functions as a polymorph spell, the type of which is listed in the creature’s description, but the creature does not adjust its ability scores (although it gains any other abilities of the creature it mimics). Unless otherwise stated, it can remain in an alternate form indefinitely. Some creatures, such as lycanthropes, can transform into unique forms with special modifiers and abilities. These creatures do adjust their ability scores, as noted in their descriptions.

OP is aware of all that, the question is because the morrigna's doesn't seem to say WHAT spell it duplicates.

Liberty's Edge

I had tried to find it others had run into this issue, but found nothing.

I originally thought it would just duplicate the spell "polymorph" at a first glance, but that does not seem to be the case.


They're up near the pinnacle of psychopomps so i'd just treat it as the highest level version of any spell that fits those forms.


Zepheri wrote:
OK but unless you say to me that he do the obedience ritual every day it's ok; but if not, Pharasma will send other ally to him because she hate undead not dragon

I'm sorry, this is very hard to read.

Also, it is not the topic of this thread and does not answer this question at all.

It's an unusual situation, and one I don't have an answer to on hand. Yeah, I'd probably just pick the best one available.

Liberty's Edge

Thank you, looks like there was no official answer anywhere. I will go with allowing the Morrigna to take whatever humanoid shape she wants. I figure its more fun that way.
A side note, strangely despite all the spider themed abilities of the Morrigna, she cannot turn into a spider.

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