| Bast L. |
"Targets you and up to 4 targets touched, either willing creatures or objects roughly the size of a creature."
What is the size of a creature in teleport? Like, is that one planet a creature? I ask, because the party currently has a purple worm tagging along, and I just have no idea what is intended here. Can the worm be teleported, or anything as large as it?
| Bast L. |
True, that is only for objects.
Of course, I don't actually think it lets you teleport planets, I just thought, "the size of a creature is pretty vague." Though, limiting it to medium would prevent you from teleporting your large, petrified friend to safety (if that ever happens, maybe enlarge spell plus flesh to stone, or a new race). I guess you could cast shrink object :)
| Ravingdork |
It may well be intended to be relative to the caster. A frost giant can bring along his frost giant battleaxe, which is bigger than most punynoids while a normal punynoid can bring along a normal punynoid battleaxe.
| Jonathan William MacLachlan |
Hey, uhhh, I know this is almost 6 years later, but even the "remaster" doesn't specify a size. Like, why bother with using Bulk if not for this exact reason?
Because, like the guy asking the question initially, "objects roughly the size of a creature", *could* be castles, or even planets.
There are *living planets* that *are* creatures that you could teleport if they're willing. So, what's the ruling here?
Can my party's wizard teleport the BBEG's castle 100 miles into the sky? Or as a tenth level spell, into a star on the other side of the galaxy?
Because this is "limitation" is waaaaaaaaay too vague.
If it were an oversight, wouldn't it have been corrected in the remastered version?
| Finoan |
It is deliberately vague.
The reason for leaving it vague is so that the ruling can be adjusted for the needs of a particular campaign. Or even a particular casting of the spell.
If the spell was instead limited to 4 medium sized creatures or objects that fit in a 5 foot cube, then OP's party's pet Purple Worm wouldn't be able to tag along any more. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing should be left up to that table's GM to decide - not something that needs to be codified into the rules.
This is one of the many reasons that this spell is tagged as Uncommon.
| QuidEst |
Hey, uhhh, I know this is almost 6 years later, but even the "remaster" doesn't specify a size. Like, why bother with using Bulk if not for this exact reason?
Because, like the guy asking the question initially, "objects roughly the size of a creature", *could* be castles, or even planets.
There are *living planets* that *are* creatures that you could teleport if they're willing. So, what's the ruling here?
Can my party's wizard teleport the BBEG's castle 100 miles into the sky? Or as a tenth level spell, into a star on the other side of the galaxy?
Because this is "limitation" is waaaaaaaaay too vague.If it were an oversight, wouldn't it have been corrected in the remastered version?
"Ambiguous Rules
Sometimes a rule could be interpreted multiple ways. If one version is too good to be true, it probably is. If a rule seems to have wording with problematic repercussions or doesn't work as intended, work with your group to find a good solution, rather than just playing with the rule as printed."This is an excellent case for applying the ambiguous rules section. While there's some wiggle room built into "objects roughly the size of a creature", the things you've listed definitely fall under "problematic repercussions" that "don't work as intended".
| Claxon |
As a GM, my solution would be that objects are restricted to the size of a medium creature. Actual creature size (for those being teleported) is irrelevant, strangely.
If this creates issues on its own...I would remind players of the Shrink Item spell, the Petrify spell (to turn someone into a statue) and Bags of Holding.
Now this would be kind of a desperate situation, because now you have to get your friends not to be statues after the fact but it will allow you to get everyone there in one trip.