The Ranger class feat "Crossbow Ace" makes reference to a "simple crossbow". Does this refer to a weapon that is called "simple crossbow" or does this refer to a crossbow which belongs to the "simple" weapon category? If the latter, aren't *all* crossbows in the simple category?
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This should be in the rules forum. It means crossbows that are simple weapons.
Yes, all currently existing Crossbows are simple, but future ones might not be. There could be a repeating crossbow that's a martial weapon someday.
This should be in the rules forum. It means crossbows that are simple weapons.
Yes, all currently existing Crossbows are simple, but future ones might not be. There could be a repeating crossbow that's a martial weapon someday.
You're right, but I'm impatient and get a faster response when I put questions in the general forum >:'3
There was a discussion about this in the rules forum Last November.
Most people concluded that a "simple crossbow" is a simple weapon which is a crossbow. Some people disagreed.
There was a discussion about this in the rules forum Last November.
Most people concluded that a "simple crossbow" is a simple weapon which is a crossbow. Some people disagreed.
Since I'm not going to comb through that entire thread, I only have one question for you: For those that concluded that it did not refer to crossbows that are simple weapons... wouldn't that mean that the feat does literally nothing, (at least at the moment)?
Yes, it would. That's why only the "crossbow that is a simple weapon" reading makes any sense.
Peeking at the thread, the argument was that simple was descriptive to clarify that it was the crossbow and not the heavy or hand. Rather than referring to the keyword of weapon types.
An argument I see no merit in.
Peeking at the thread, the argument was that simple was descriptive to clarify that it was the crossbow and not the heavy or hand. Rather than referring to the keyword of weapon types.
An argument I see no merit in.
I would agree as Pathfinder/3.x legacy of terms has never used flowery adjectives. There is no such thing as a "simple crossbow" - but there is a crossbow that has the "simple" type.
What about the Alchemical crossbow that exist now?This should be in the rules forum. It means crossbows that are simple weapons.
Yes, all currently existing Crossbows are simple, but future ones might not be. There could be a repeating crossbow that's a martial weapon someday.
That could go either way. It's not actually a Weapon. It's classified as an Item. However it says to use your Crossbow Proficiency, which would be a Simple Weapon Proficiency, and it states "The addition of the bracket serves to unbalance the weapon, reducing its range to 30 feet. It otherwise functions as a crossbow (when determining damage, reload, and so on)". So it's not technically a Simple Weapon, but it is used as one.
I do not get why paizo do not highlight keywords making it much easier to read their intent. Does it really look that ugly?
Usually they Capitalize keywords. For some reason though, weapon categories weren't made keywords/traits. So even if they highlighted keywords, it wouldn't help us here.
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Huh, not a bad feat.
The odd part about the prior argument about the feat is that the basic crossbow (the d8 one, not the hand or the heavy) is the best one to use it with. It's got better damage and range than the hand crossbow, and a reload of 1 unlike the heavy crossbow.
With Running Reload the precision crossbow ranger has a sensible and versatile 3 action structure- they can fire, reload while moving, and you have one action left over for something like "hunt target" or "command your Animal Companion."
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Huh, not a bad feat.The odd part about the prior argument about the feat is that the basic crossbow (the d8 one, not the hand or the heavy) is the best one to use it with. It's got better damage and range than the hand crossbow, and a reload of 1 unlike the heavy crossbow.
With Running Reload the precision crossbow ranger has a sensible and versatile 3 action structure- they can fire, reload while moving, and you have one action left over for something like "hunt target" or "command your Animal Companion."
Even better because you're not just restricted to striding with that feat too, so you can shoot, hide and reload whilst sneaking off, too.