Two Handed Fight

[dvance450]

Hello all,

I am getting ready to play in a new Pathfinder campaign and we will be starting at level 1. I have this idea for a defensive fighter who can still hit hard. I was thinking about using a Elven Curve Blade in conjunction with the deadly defense feat for the base of my build. My DM is allowing 3.5 material for character creations. I am looking at feats like power attack, wep. focus and spec, melee wep mastery, slashing furry, weapon supremacy, shield focus (buckler),imp. buckler defense and looking would like some recommendations on other feats.

Traits: Defender of Society, Threatening Defender, Heirloom and Eyes and Ears of the city.

I plan on taking the Additional Talent trait for this.

My stats are the following.

Str. 20
Dex. 15
Con. 15
Int. 13
Wis. 12
Chr. 10

Thanks in advance.

[blackbloodtroll]

Why Elven Curve Blade?

What is the Deadly Defense feat?

[dvance450]

Deadly Defense lets me add a d6 to weapon damage when i use combat expertise or fight def. This can be done for light weapons or weapons that are capable of weapon finesse.

The Elven curve blade is a two handed weapon that is able to utilize weapon finesse.

[blackbloodtroll]

What's your race?

[dvance450]

Its a Human, sorry for omitting that in the original post.

[LazarX]

Bump your Str down by a bit and raise your dex and con up by 1. If you're going to be a "defensive" fighter, you might has well have some more defense vs. face plant.

[blackbloodtroll]

I really don't see why you would want a Finesse build, with those stats.

Consider the Phalanx Soldier or Brawler archetypes.

[Lacdannan]

If I understand correctly, he isn't making a finesse build. He is a strength build, but wants to use a feat that is only applicable to a light weapon or any weapon capable of being finessed. Therefore, he is using an elven curved blade as it meets the requirement; however, he has no intention of ever taking weapon finesse. The choice of weapon is just a means to apply the feat.

[dvance450]

Well i'm not trying to be a straight "finesse" fighter. I am looking at being able to hit hard and not getting hit as much as a normally two handed fighter. I am utilizing the deadly defense feat on the Elven Curve blade so i can do D10 + D6 + 1.5 MGT Bonus + Power Attack when i hit. And to get the bonus D6 damage i use combat Expertise which will boost my AC and i will suffer a -1 to hit with the threatening defender trait.

[Lacdannan]

Looking at the Deadly Defense Feat from complete scoundrel, it specifically states it only applies when you are wearing no armor or light armor and not using a shield. Since you plan on investing feats in a buckler and want to be a defensive fighter, I assume a shield and better-than-light armor are in your future.

So without GM approval, it will not work with your buckler usage. If your GM will allow it go for it; otherwise, your options on weapons just opened up to more than the Elven Curved Blade.

[blackbloodtroll]

Deadly Defense actually seems like a terrible idea for a defensive fighter.

A defensive Monk, would make better use of it.

[Kazaan]

How about a Thunderstriker Fighter? Their gimmick is that they use a 1-h + buckler and switch between wielding the weapon 2-h against the big nasties and being able to TWF with the weapon + buckler when up against mooks.

[blackbloodtroll]

Kazaan wrote:

How about a Thunderstriker Fighter? Their gimmick is that they use a 1-h + buckler and switch between wielding the weapon 2-h against the big nasties and being able to TWF with the weapon + buckler when up against mooks.

Still doesn't work with the Deadly Defense feat.

So, unless he drops it, that is a bad choice.

[Alexandros Satorum]

What is slashing flurry?

[blackbloodtroll]

Slashing Furry?

If you are talking about some weird Furry Slash Fan-Fiction, then this is not the place for it.

[Gregory Connolly]

A paladin of Abadar with an elven curve blade would have much better defenses than a fighter forced to worship that deity by virtue of taking a trait. It could be a way to trade offense in the form of feats and weapon training for the defenses of a paladin. You can even multiclass between the two if you want to.

[dvance450]

Lacdannan,

You are correct about the feat. I totally skipped that part for some reason. May just scrap the idea and go pure damage dealer with a greatsword.

[blackbloodtroll]

You can still two hand a weapon, and be defensive.

Going for say, Brawler Fighter and two handing a Heavy Shield, or going for Phalanx Fighter and using a Polearm with a Quickdraw Shield is way to do both.

You could even go for an Armored Hulk Barbarian.

[rorek55]

capt. America builds actually work extremely well for two handed fighters.

[Kazaan]

How about a Maneuver Master? They can use FoM without weapon restrictions so dip 3-4 levels and you can mix in Dirty Tricks with your full-attack, then Fighter the rest of the way. Probably go for the Two-handed Fighter archetype with the ECB. You can also use feats like Shield of Swings and Pushing Assault (they rely on using a 2-h weapon).