A weighty challenge


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So I was wondering assuming an encumbered bulk of 9 what is the max weight of equipment you could carry without being encumbered using pathfinder ones weight for objects any ideas?


If you pack it all in coins (1000 per 1 Bulk PF2, 50 per lb PF1) you get 20 lb/Bulk, so just under 180 lb.

Of course, considering that coins changed values between edition, applying their PF1 weight is totally cheating, but you seem to be asking for that....


I would guess something like the hatchet it's an L bulk item that weighs 3lbs so 270lbs. I'll try to add a weight column to my quick looter guide later and get you a real answer.


ErichAD wrote:
I would guess something like the hatchet it's an L bulk item that weighs 3lbs so 270lbs. I'll try to add a weight column to my quick looter guide later and get you a real answer.

With the new backpack errata you can carry 20 more hatchetts for at total of 330lb with 110 hatchetts


I'm unable to give an exact answer due to being unable to find values for animal feed in PF2. However, with what I have, the answer is 630lbs from carrying 90 crystal balls. If animal feed is rations, then we have 6300lbs from carrying 90weeks of animal feed at 10lbs per day. I'm sure I've just missed the cost of animal feed somewhere in the book.

edit: Oh, I guess I should check out that errata. Thanks


ErichAD wrote:
I'm unable to give an exact answer due to being unable to find values for animal feed in PF2. However, with what I have, the answer is 630lbs from carrying 90 crystal balls. If animal feed is rations, then we have 6300lbs from carrying 90weeks of animal feed at 10lbs per day. I'm sure I've just missed the cost of animal feed somewhere in the book.

I don't think you've missed anything, PF2 seems to have decided that animal feed is one of those lesser things that can be left for a post-CRB book. Until then, everything can just graze. Dogs graze, right? ;)

(To be fair, if I went through Ultimate Equipment listing the things I'd like to see PF2 stats for I bet I'd put a lot of other things before animal feed.)


The point of bulk is that objects can both be heavier and easier to carry at the same time, so giving units of bulk a weight value is a bit difficult. (For example, a ladder has a lot more bulk than most objects of equal weight due to being long and cumbersome, and an anvil would be less bulk than a wooden sculpture of the same weight, as the wooden sculpture is a lot less dense and as such is less compact).

So I think the best way to do a conversion would be to just do it individually for each object with no hard and fast rule for what bulk equals what weight.


Manacles have "-" bulk, which means you can carry "vast" amounts without even counting to bulk. In PF1 they were 2 lbs each, so how many is a "vast" amount? Add that much to anything else.
As a base I would suggest full waterskins. At about half a gallon plus the container, they should be about 5 pounds for a L bulk.


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The whole point of the bulk system was to make book-keeping of equipment inventories easier. Sure, that introduces a lot of niggling inconsistencies, like how much of improbably light elements you can carry in your belt pouch or your bandolier.

But at the end of the day, the assumption is that players aren't going to try to "game" the system, and won't push the bulk values and container limits to improbable extremes.

So I suggest that folks fill their belt pouches, satchels, bandoliers and backpacks with a reasonable amount of gear, that would logically fit, and not complain about the absurd results you can get if you push things beyond the reasonable.


Mellack wrote:
In PF1 they were 2 lbs each, so how many is a "vast" amount?

PF2 switched to zip ties.


CrystalSeas wrote:
Mellack wrote:
In PF1 they were 2 lbs each, so how many is a "vast" amount?
PF2 switched to zip ties.

And dehydrated nutrition pills.

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