What counts as a "Spellcasting Class Feature?"


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The human ancestry feat Adapted Cantrip has that as its prerequisite.

https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=66

I've seen it recommended for human Champions and Monks to take a divine or occult caster multiclass dedication and then take the feat to pick up Electric Arc or Telekinetic Projectile for a strong dex independent ranged attack.

But does that even work RAW? Are the couple of cantrips you get from a multiclass dedication feat a "spellcasting class feature?"

Do other people think this prerequisite is confusing enough that it should be put in the errata and FAQ thread?


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Spamotron wrote:

The human ancestry feat Adapted Cantrip has that as its prerequisite.

https://2e.aonprd.com/Feats.aspx?ID=66

I've seen it recommended for human Champions and Monks to take a divine or occult caster multiclass dedication and then take the feat to pick up Electric Arc or Telekinetic Projectile for a strong dex independent ranged attack.

But does that even work RAW? Are the couple of cantrips you get from a multiclass dedication feat a "spellcasting class feature?"

Do other people think this prerequisite is confusing enough that it should be put in the errata and FAQ thread?

The dedications include text like "You cast spells like a sorcerer. You gain access to the Cast a Spell activity."

I'm pretty sure that gaining access to a feature that gives the Cast a Spell activity can reasonably be interpreted as a "spellcasting class feature," ergo a sorcerer, wizard, etc. dedication would count.

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RAW, nothing say you gain the class features, and nothing even say you are part of the class you dedicated into in the book. This will definitively need some clarification in the coming "Rule Update" documents the devs are brewing up right now.


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I'm missing something:why not just take an Arcane or Primal caster multiclass dedication? Ahh, I realize I've figured out the answer: as a Champion/Monk you will have Divine/Occult proficiency (for your save DC) that scales higher; if you are just doing the multiclass for the cantrips and not planning to take more spellcasting feats you'll be stuck at Trained.


Elfteiroh wrote:
RAW, nothing say you gain the class features, and nothing even say you are part of the class you dedicated into in the book. This will definitively need some clarification in the coming "Rule Update" documents the devs are brewing up right now.

From the Sorcerer Dedication feat:

You’re trained in spell attack rolls and spell DCs for your tradition’s spells

Taking a caster archetype makes you a caster. That's like, the whole idea of taking a caster archetype...


Well, it does appear that there's enough confusion to warrant a post on the Errata thread. So I'll do that now.

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