No. Though of course changing your mind would definitely do it.
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What are you, crazy? That's what an LG abolitionist would do, and Double C is CG!
Seriously, it's probably fine.
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Cayden Cailean’s anathema includes “own a slave[.]” Would purchasing a slave specifically to manumit him or her violate that anathema?
The only reason I think it might is that you are rewarding slavers by paying for the slave, and thus encouraging them to create more.
(Bonus points for use of the word "Manumit". I had to look it up to make sure it wasn't a mistyped spelling!)
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I think that anathema is for when you're clearly working against your God's wishes. Though Cayden would probably prefer you free slaves without rewarding the slaver, if there's no other way to free said slave I think it's better than just shrugging and leaving them in chains. Or at the very least, the question of which is better by Cayden's viewpoint is close enough you shouldn't lose powers for your choice.
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I think the main thing with these anathema is that they shouldn't be hard and fast gotcha rules. Intent is important. CC is a CG god who gets to peek inside your head because you invited him. You aren't going to legalese him into submission.
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I think the main thing with these anathema is that they shouldn't be hard and fast gotcha rules. Intent is important. CC is a CG god who gets to peek inside your head because you invited him. You aren't going to legalese him into submission.
Well at least Cayden won't, Asmodeus however...
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The only reason I think it might is that you are rewarding slavers by paying for the slave, and thus encouraging them to create more.
Scamming the slaver into giving you the slave would certainly be way better.
(Bonus points for use of the word "Manumit". I had to look it up to make sure it wasn't a mistyped spelling!)
Thanks! Busting out a 5 sp word definitely added to the fun of the (literally) philosophical question.
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You probably wouldn't be punished for it, but Cayden Cailean certainly would not approve.
Buying slaves to free them rewards slavers, because they only care about getting money, not where their slaves are going after they get paid. If a slaver can get enough people to buy his slaves and free them, you're not ending slavery -- you're just turning slavers into kidnappers who demand ransom.
Cayden Cailean wants to see all slavery gone and slavers get rightful comeuppance. He would prefer you use violence or guile against slavers rather than play by their rules.
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What are you, crazy? That's what an LG abolitionist would do, and Double C is CG!That’s actually my thought process. Is Cayden so CG that even participating in slavery to that limited and subversive extent anathema?
His edict is "Free slaves", and you are doing that. So I don't see how that would be anything close to an anathema.
Sure, he would prefer scamming (ideally by getting the slavers drunk), but defiantly not an anathema.
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You probably wouldn't be punished for it, but Cayden Cailean certainly would not approve.
Buying slaves to free them rewards slavers, because they only care about getting money, not where their slaves are going after they get paid. If a slaver can get enough people to buy his slaves and free them, you're not ending slavery -- you're just turning slavers into kidnappers who demand ransom.
Cayden Cailean wants to see all slavery gone and slavers get rightful comeuppance. He would prefer you use violence or guile against slavers rather than play by their rules.
Some particularly nasty slaver could even like that MORE, because then they can catch them again and sell them AGAIN.
A more awkward situation happened during the slavery period in the United States. People would inherit slaves. And South Carolina restricted freeing slaves: "South Carolina made manumission more difficult, requiring legislative approval of every instance of manumission. Several Southern ststes required manumitted slaves to leave the state within 30 days." from Wikipedia: Slavery in the United States.
The famous Viriginian general Robert E. Lee owned slaves temporarily because his wife inherited them from her father. Lee freed the slaves, not because he was against slavery, but because his father-in-law wanted Lee to free them after the father's death. I guess a living owner to go through the process more easily than the executor of a dead owner's estate.
I suspect that for a slaveholding country in Golarion, the government would know about the requirement for clerics and champions of Cayden Cailean to free any slaves they inherit. They probably go along with it, because a chaotic religious order can cause lots of trouble. And then they would require that the former slave leave the country.
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I suspect that for a slaveholding country in Golarion, the government would know about the requirement for clerics and champions of Cayden Cailean to free any slaves they inherit. They probably go along with it, because a chaotic religious order can cause lots of trouble. And then they would require that the former slave leave the country.
Most countries that hold slaves don't have a lot of desire to accommodate worshipers of Cayden Cailean. His worship is actively illegal in Cheliax, Nidal, and similar places.
This policy may be true in Kaer Maga or the few other places that accept both Cayden's church and slavery.
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I suspect that for a slaveholding country in Golarion, the government would know about the requirement for clerics and champions of Cayden Cailean to free any slaves they inherit. They probably go along with it, because a chaotic religious order can cause lots of trouble. And then they would require that the former slave leave the country.Most countries that hold slaves don't have a lot of desire to accommodate worshipers of Cayden Cailean. His worship is actively illegal in Cheliax, Nidal, and similar places.
This policy may be true in Kaer Maga or the few other places that accept both Cayden's church and slavery.
Kaer Maga regularly breaks out into turf wars over that, going off what was shown in The Redemption Engine by James Sutter.
