Druids Cantrips Number per Day?


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The table on page 132 and the text on page 131 contradict each other with number of cantrips per day. Please clarify?


Five is almost certainly correct. The table is likely an oversight. They started with four in the playtest but it was changed to five in the late stages of the playtest.


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Bardic Dave wrote:
Five is almost certainly correct. The table is likely an oversight. They started with four in the playtest but it was changed to five in the late stages of the playtest.

Makes sense. And my wife told me her Druid will have 5 cantrips until Paizo clarifies. Haha

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Is this mistake in the printed book? There is a need for Errata already?


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Samurai wrote:
Is this mistake in the printed book? There is a need for Errata already?

I know, right!? A 640 page RPG book with multiple authors that has gone through numerous iterations has typos and errors? I'm shocked!

What do you mean by "need for Errata already?" Whatever typos/errors there might be, they exist from the moment they're printed. It's not like they sneak into the book after the fact when no one's looking...


Bardic Dave wrote:
It's not like they sneak into the book after the fact when no one's looking...

LOL


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It's not like the PF1 CRB or the starfinder CRB had any errors at all. None whatsoever, nope, definitely not.


Printed. I’m fine with marking up the book myself. Just hoping to clarify for posterity.


Garretmander wrote:
It's not like the PF1 CRB or the starfinder CRB had any errors at all. None whatsoever, nope, definitely not.

Yes. No extensive changes to Piloting DCs referenced all over the SF CRB at all! ;)


To the question, I don't believe that the people who can answer this question and those like it can answer until 10 AM EST on 8/1/19. Well, I guess Jason could swing by...


Blake's Tiger wrote:
To the question, I don't believe that the people who can answer this question and those like it can answer until 10 AM EST on 8/1/19. Well, I guess Jason could swing by...

Evidence absolutely points to the Anwar having already been provided though. Especially since all other casters get 5 cantrips.

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Captain Morgan wrote:
Blake's Tiger wrote:
To the question, I don't believe that the people who can answer this question and those like it can answer until 10 AM EST on 8/1/19. Well, I guess Jason could swing by...
Evidence absolutely points to the Anwar having already been provided though. Especially since all other casters get 5 cantrips.

Does the Druid have an extra special ability above and beyond the other casters? And does it eventually catch up to their number of spells and cantrips or is it permanently behind?


Samurai wrote:
Captain Morgan wrote:
Blake's Tiger wrote:
To the question, I don't believe that the people who can answer this question and those like it can answer until 10 AM EST on 8/1/19. Well, I guess Jason could swing by...
Evidence absolutely points to the Anwar having already been provided though. Especially since all other casters get 5 cantrips.
Does the Druid have an extra special ability above and beyond the other casters? And does it eventually catch up to their number of spells and cantrips or is it permanently behind?

They aren't behind, because they also get 5 cantrips.


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Samurai wrote:


Does the Druid have an extra special ability above and beyond the other casters? And does it eventually catch up to their number of spells and cantrips or is it permanently behind?

The 4 Druid Orders each get some fairly cool things - animal companions, Wild Shape, etc.


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Bardic Dave wrote:
Samurai wrote:
Is this mistake in the printed book? There is a need for Errata already?

I know, right!? A 640 page RPG book with multiple authors that has gone through numerous iterations has typos and errors? I'm shocked!

What do you mean by "need for Errata already?" Whatever typos/errors there might be, they exist from the moment they're printed. It's not like they sneak into the book after the fact when no one's looking...

You'd be surprised. I ended up indexing a couple (non-gaming) books a few years back, and they wanted the index before copy-editing was complete (which... yeah). The practical upshot for me was they wouldn't send me the completed new version, just groups of separate pages that were changed on the fly (as individual pdfs, which was an organizational nightmare). Several new errors crept in to the new pages of text, which made an annoying process even more fun, because it meant I had to redo more work that I had already redone. And redo again, when the authors realized the editors had rejected their edits and substituted their own that were worse mistakes, because they didn't recognize the historical terms and proper names involved and 'fixed' them.

Sigh.

But 'printed' is something of a nebulous concept these days. Books tend spend several iterations as word files, several iterations as pdfs, then proof copies, maybe reader copies, back to pdfs (which are hopefully edited with changes from the previous two steps, and were from the last version of the pdf, though that sadly isn't guaranteed) and then might hit a finalized initial print run that may or may not be edited again (depending on how well it does).

So those errors can be pretty sneaky, and get plenty of opportunities.


Garretmander wrote:
It's not like the PF1 CRB or the starfinder CRB had any errors at all. None whatsoever, nope, definitely not.

The PF1 CRB had a maassive percentage of text directly duplicated from the D&D 3.5 PHB and DMG, and most of that was duplicated from the D&D 3.0 PHB and DMG. There were years of eyes passing over and identifying typos prior to print-time.

With PF2 CRB being mostly brand new text, I'd be shocked if there weren't a bunch of - completely understandable - typos. That's the primary reason why I didn't order a deluxe book. I expect the first reprinting to be much more accurate.

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