Hey guys, so love Ooze morph and did a build and character story for one ages ago but the conversation around it At the time was it’s broken and why bother so I never managed to clarify the questions I had.
So we are going to use a level 15 template because everything we need to know is online at that point.
So my guy for backstory reasons ends up with an Elven curved blade proficiency but is a strength build, for simplicity and arguments sake and ease we will be saying he has 20STR and a +5 weapon. Ignore standard assumptions I’m just doing it all for arguments sake. The only feat he has that matters is multiattack
So first, standard combat style is to speak he is using the alter self function of fluidic body to take the form of an elf, a medium sized humanoid providing a +2 strength bonus.
Morphic Weaponry at this stage provides 4 natural attacks, so his attack sequence as I understand it is
26/21/16 (1D10+14/18-20x2), 4 Morphic Weapons +19 (1D6+3)
I think I have that right but need it confirming.
Now say he becomes a troll with giant form one. As I understand he gains a +6 to strength instead of plus 2 so now 26 and the blade becomes a 2D6 weapon. Meaning we get the below
28/23/18 (2D6+17/18-20x2)
Now assuming I’m right so far I am confused at this point, morphic weapons don’t stack with natural weapons.
A troll gets two claws and a bite.
The bite he definitely uses that much I know, but do the two claws mean he only gets one morphic weapon attack, even though he could not use his claw weapons with the sword in his hands or does the fact he cannot use them mean he can grow 3 morphic weapons as he cannot use his claws.
If it’s the former it seems to me the bonuses gained by giant form are out weighed by the loss of several natural attacks or at least it’s a toss up.
You would lose out on attacks, as you can only have 4 natural attacks at once, so you'd only be able to create one morphic weapon. Giant form would indeed not be worth it in this case.
Something else to note is that shifter's fury is available for oozemorphs. This would give you an additional 2 attacks at level 15, and another once you hit 16.
That’s a shame, so if you shifters furied on the bite would that mean eventually 4 sword attacks and 4 bite attacks or just 4 bite attacks?
No matter how much you love the Oozemorph, it will never love you back.
No matter how much you love the Oozemorph, it will never love you back.
I don’t know 4 weapon attacks and 4 bites, a climb speed, damage reduction alter self, giant shape and compression abilities.
It’s certianly not great, but in a low optimisation group it could be good.
Counterintuitively an Oozemorph appears to want to choose forms with no natural attacks so they can use their morphic weapons. As such cyclops (0 natural attacks) might be a better choice for offense in Giant form than troll, depth perception be damned, though I understand the appeal of troll is the regeneration.