Adaptive Shifter spiked form and natural attacks

[Just a Guess]

The Adaptive Shifter gets a reactive form called spiked form, which, if taken twice allows him to shoot multiple spikes. Is that using iterative attacks? Or how do we know how many I can shoot?
What it doesn't state is what happens when combined with natural attacks.

Assume he used Lasting Adaptation to make his spiked form last all day and then activates stretching form to gain reach with his natural attacks. If he has a foe in 10ft can he use all of his natural attacks and make his iteratives with spiked form? And if so do the natural attacks become secondary?

spiked form:

Spiked Form*: The adaptive shifter grows spines over her body. Any foe striking her with an unarmed strike or a melee natural weapon takes an amount of piercing damage equal to the base damage of her shifter claws, which ignores any damage reduction her shifter claws would ignore. She can learn this form a second time, allowing her to fling her spines as thrown natural weapons that deal piercing damage, have a range increment of 30 feet, and allow her to make multiple attacks with her spines as part of a full attack; these otherwise deal damage and overcome damage reduction as her shifter claws.

Example level 6 ragebred adaptive shifter:

The wereboar can have 1 gore and 2 hoof natural attacks in addition to his shifter's claws and the spines he can shoot

How many spines can I shoot?
Can I make all melee natural attacks in addition to that?
If yes are the melee natural attacks primary (assuming they are primary to begin with)or secondary?

[LordKailas]

The ability is poorly written, if it didn't have this statement.

Adaptive Shifter wrote:

and allow her to make multiple attacks with her spines as part of a full attack

Then I would interpret that the ability only gives you one attack. However, it explicitly states that you can get more then one but fails to really state how those extra attacks work.

I see two possible interpretations, and I have no idea which is correct.

1. It states you fling the thorns which suggests that it involves your arms and is somewhat based on the claws ability. The default character would have 2 in either case and so, it follows that you get 2 attacks.

2. It states that multiple can be made using the full attack action. So, you get additional attacks based on having a high base attack bonus.

Does the opponent also have reach?

If the opponent does not have reach and you do and it's #1 you could attack normally with all of your natural weapons suffering penalties only on natural weapons that are considered secondary. Since spines would fall under the "other" category they would be such secondary weapons.

If the opponent does not have reach and you do and it's #2 you would be able to attack with your spines normally at no penalty and then attack with the rest of your natural weapons which would all be considered secondary attacks.

If your enemy also has reach or otherwise threatens you, either scenario would still be valid, but your ranged attacks would provoke an AoO from said enemy.

[GameMasterZX]

So I know this is a pretty old thread and I'm not entirely sure what the etiquette is on necromancy in this forum, but my girlfriend and I came across the same question and were wondering if anyone has found an official answer or any additional thoughts for ruling on this.

[Cavall]

Not the worst case of Necromacy, friend, though its usually frowned upon for long dead threads.

LordKailas is right it's pretty awkwardly worded.

If I had to guess I would say treat as natural attacks your can throw or attack with your choice. If you're using a weapon treat as natural attack with one hand occupied, but your weapon hand would get iterative attacks based on BAB.

But yeah that's a guess.

I don't think its allowing extra attacks in top of regular melee ones.

[Derklord]

My suggestion: It's a 1/round attack, as normal, but it can be used with Shifter's Fury.

I think in cases like this, necro'ing an old thread is good. It offers some information, and there weren't any changes in the meantime.

[Lelomenia]

I’m going to interpret that “and allow her to make multiple attacks with her spines as part of a full attack;” is a bad phrasing for “you can use your spines as part of a full attack that makes multiple attacks”, because there it makes sense, otherwise there’s no way to know how it’s intended to work.

[Zepheri]

The first time u take the ability you have a spike armor if you take a second time it a ranged attack and use the same attack of a claw attack this mean you replace the claw attack for the thorns attack