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I've seen these gloves recommended everywhere as a means to increase Mystic Bolt damage. However, they don't appear to be legal. I feel like I must be missing something because so many people recommend them. The bolts state that they can't be made with magic weapon special abilities, and the gloves grant corrosive, which is a magic weapon special ability. So what am I missing?
Warlock Vigilante | Deliquescent Gloves
The warlock vigilante attacks with mystic bolts as though they were light one-handed weapons, and the bolts can be used for two-weapon fighting [...] and feats and abilities that apply to weapon attacks [...]. Creating a mystic bolt requires the hand to be free, but the bolt appears only briefly, so a warlock using mystic bolts has a free hand any time she isn’t attacking with a mystic bolt.
The warlock threatens with a mystic bolt, but only if she has a hand free. Because mystic bolts are impermanent, a spell that targets a single weapon (like magic weapon) can’t affect it, nor can a mystic bolt be made with magic weapon special abilities. Abilities that affect all weapon attacks the warlock makes, such as the arcane striker warlock talent, function with mystic bolts.
If the wearer uses that hand to wield a weapon or make an attack with an unarmed strike or natural weapon, that attack gains the corrosive weapon special ability.
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Yes, the gloves work with mystic bolts. I have a PFS warlock who does just that. It works just like the Arcane Striker Warlock Talent.
Arcane Striker (Su): The warlock gains Arcane Strike as a bonus feat. At 12th level, when she activates Arcane Strike, she can choose to also give her weapons the flaming, frost, shock, or thundering weapon special ability. She makes this choice each time she activates Arcane Strike, and it lasts for the same duration. At 16th level, she adds anarchic, axiomatic, flaming burst, holy, icy burst, shocking burst, and unholy to the list of special abilities she can select. She can choose to apply an alignment-based weapon special ability only while in her vigilante identity, and only if it matches the alignment of her vigilante identity.
You create the bolts, then when you attack the acid damage triggers from the gloves.
One thing of note...when you are up against something with acid resist, the gloves count as a separate source vs resistance. So the bolt and the gloves will both go against the full resistance.
As for increasing the damage of mystic bolts...there are very few options. The best way I have found is Sneak Attack. My PFS warlock has levels in unchained rogue and will eventually go arcane trickster, as well as the accomplished sneak attacker feat to boost his damage. At this point I am doing 1d6+4 Mystic Bolt + 1d6 gloves + 2d6 sneak attack with TWF (Currently URogue 1 / Warlock 6, next level I start on Arcane Trickster levels)
I get around acid resistance by carrying a +1 adamantine dagger in my tattoo chamber, for those just in case moments.
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I believe these are the relevant parts of the descriptions you need to pay attention to
Abilities that affect all weapon attacks the warlock makes [...] function with mystic bolts.
If the wearer uses that hand to wield a weapon or make an attack with an unarmed strike or natural weapon, that attack gains the corrosive weapon special ability.
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The warlock vigilante attacks with mystic bolts as though they were light one-handed weapons, and the bolts can be used for two-weapon fighting (with each hand creating one mystic bolt) and feats and abilities that apply to weapon attacks
Deliquescent Gloves and Demonic Smiths Gloves both give an ability that applies to weapon attacks, and therefore applies to Mystic Bolts.
Pretty sure all this was settled several years back when the class and archetype came out.
just pointing out, there are also gloves that work the same but deal fire damage.
Deliquescent Gloves and Demonic Smiths Gloves both give an ability that applies to weapon attacks, and therefore applies to Mystic Bolts.Demonic Smith Gloves give an ability that applies to weapon attacks, so they work fine with Mystic Bolts. But Deliquencent Gloves are more specific than that.
Deliquescent says it works with wielded weapons as well. That paragraph has similar wording to the Demonic Smith's, aside from the corrosive/flaming part.
The wearer’s melee touch attacks with that hand deal 1d6 points of acid damage. If the wearer uses that hand to wield a weapon or make an attack with an unarmed strike or natural weapon, that attack gains the corrosive weapon special ability.
Whenever the wearer makes a melee touch attack, she deals 1d6 points of fire damage. If the wearer wields a weapon or makes an attack with an unarmed strike, that attack gains the flaming weapon special ability.
Though if special abilities could never apply to bolts, then the following sentence that says that Arcane Striker works with bolts would be wrong. Arcane Striker grants the ability to give your weapons special abilities when you use the Arcane Strike feat, in addition to granting Arcane Strike as a bonus feat.
But since Arcane Striker works, then the gloves should as well.
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There are hundreds of posts about making Mystic Bolts more viable, going back several years. The overwhelming consensus is that Deliquescent Gloves and Demonic Smith Gloves both work with them.
Mystic bolt basically creates a magical light one handed weapon, which you can either throw or use in melee. It works with feats like Weapon Focus, Arcane Strike, Two-Weapon Fighting, Rapid Shot, etc. There are also a number of spells that can increase the effectiveness of the bolts. You can also sneak attack with them.
Once the bolt is created, any magic item or spell that triggers on an attack would trigger...Gloves of Arcane Striking, Demonic Smiths Gloves, Deliquescent Gloves, Shocking Grasp (in melee), etc.
The key things to remember are, it counts as a light one handed weapon and/or a thrown weapon. At higher levels one or more bolts can target touch AC. It is not a manufactured weapon (no Sense Vitals, boo). You can summon as many per turn as you can makes attacks with.
I know Mark responded to several posts about mystic bolts a while back. I did a lot of research about the class/archetype and this power in particular before I planned out mine for PFS to make sure I was staying within the rules.
Unchained Rogue 1 / Warlock Vigilante 6 / Arcane Trickster 5 makes for an extremely fun character that is 100% PFS legal, and extremely versatile btw.