I'll take "Runelords Named Aethusa" for $1000!


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Who were the Runelords of Gluttony and Greed that ruled at the same time (-6150AR - -5822AR and -5997AR - -5862AR, respectively) according to the Runelords article in Chapter 1?

Were these two Runelords the same person?

-Skeld

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Different people, but same name. The Greed one being a student of transmutation, though (AKA shapechanging) should give some suggestions about how this may have come about.

(It's a bit more complicated than that, and there was a fair amount of conflict between the two that eventually ended with Greed Aethusa getting taken out by Gluttony Aethusa; this is perhaps a story that might be explored more sometime in the future though.)

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James Jacobs wrote:

Different people, but same name. The Greed one being a student of transmutation, though (AKA shapechanging) should give some suggestions about how this may have come about.

(It's a bit more complicated than that, and there was a fair amount of conflict between the two that eventually ended with Greed Aethusa getting taken out by Gluttony Aethusa; this is perhaps a story that might be explored more sometime in the future though.)

Thanks for the answer, James. I really hoped that you'd come back with a cool backstory for why the names are the same (instead of "oops, that's a mistake").

Now I hope you get a chance to expand on all the above in the near future!

-Skeld


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Skeld wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Different people, but same name. The Greed one being a student of transmutation, though (AKA shapechanging) should give some suggestions about how this may have come about.

(It's a bit more complicated than that, and there was a fair amount of conflict between the two that eventually ended with Greed Aethusa getting taken out by Gluttony Aethusa; this is perhaps a story that might be explored more sometime in the future though.)

Thanks for the answer, James. I really hoped that you'd come back with a cool backstory for why the names are the same (instead of "oops, that's a mistake").

Now I hope you get a chance to expand on all the above in the near future!

-Skeld

I find it kind of funny that people think it's so odd they should have the same name....do you know how many Steve's I work with ? and that's just one factory :P


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Yeah, you couldn't swing a dead cat in ancient Thassilon without hitting an Aethusa or three...

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Skeld wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Different people, but same name. The Greed one being a student of transmutation, though (AKA shapechanging) should give some suggestions about how this may have come about.

(It's a bit more complicated than that, and there was a fair amount of conflict between the two that eventually ended with Greed Aethusa getting taken out by Gluttony Aethusa; this is perhaps a story that might be explored more sometime in the future though.)

Thanks for the answer, James. I really hoped that you'd come back with a cool backstory for why the names are the same (instead of "oops, that's a mistake").

Now I hope you get a chance to expand on all the above in the near future!

-Skeld

There won't be anything about this element in print until the last volume, in any event—the Aethusas don't have a role to play in the plot, but will be mentioned in the final volume's short "Beyond the Campaign" article.

And in the "Full disclosure" element... it WAS a mistake to have two names repeated. But sometimes the best plot points rise out of mistakes, and I'm pretty delighted with what's coming out of this one.

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nighttree wrote:
I find it kind of funny that people think it's so odd they should have the same name....do you know how many Steve's I work with ? and that's just one factory :P

Fiction's got a lot of rules that real life doesn't have to worry about.

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James Jacobs wrote:
Skeld wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:

Different people, but same name. The Greed one being a student of transmutation, though (AKA shapechanging) should give some suggestions about how this may have come about.

(It's a bit more complicated than that, and there was a fair amount of conflict between the two that eventually ended with Greed Aethusa getting taken out by Gluttony Aethusa; this is perhaps a story that might be explored more sometime in the future though.)

Thanks for the answer, James. I really hoped that you'd come back with a cool backstory for why the names are the same (instead of "oops, that's a mistake").

Now I hope you get a chance to expand on all the above in the near future!

-Skeld

There won't be anything about this element in print until the last volume, in any event—the Aethusas don't have a role to play in the plot, but will be mentioned in the final volume's short "Beyond the Campaign" article.

And in the "Full disclosure" element... it WAS a mistake to have two names repeated. But sometimes the best plot points rise out of mistakes, and I'm pretty delighted with what's coming out of this one.

Even better. I try to turn all my GM screw-ups into twists and turns. Sometimes it works and sometimes, not so much.

This one sounds awesome. Looking forward to seeing what you came up with. :D

-Skeld


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Maybe both Aethusa's pronounced their names differently and got really salty about people making the mistake?


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Reminds me of Nurgal and Nergal.


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Lost Omens World Guide for 2E has got me reading these teases with great interest.

Aethusa rises in New Thassilon!

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She is from part six of Return of the Runelords actually. Well the new thassilon article in that book.

She is probably not actually reincarnation of two previous ones considering one of them killed the other, unless something weird is happening :p

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CorvusMask wrote:

She is from part six of Return of the Runelords actually. Well the new thassilon article in that book.

She is probably not actually reincarnation of two previous ones considering one of them killed the other, unless something weird is happening :p

And nothing weird EVER happens in Thassilon, right? :P

Heh.

(AKA this story is still simmering and, one day, I hope to tell more!)

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James Jacobs wrote:
CorvusMask wrote:

She is from part six of Return of the Runelords actually. Well the new thassilon article in that book.

She is probably not actually reincarnation of two previous ones considering one of them killed the other, unless something weird is happening :p

And nothing weird EVER happens in Thassilon, right? :P

Heh.

(AKA this story is still simmering and, one day, I hope to tell more!)

I do hope the part of the story is that Aethusa has (or is going to) went somehow(despite at one point two of them being alive) through reincarnation of all seven thassilonian wizard types :D Transmuter, necromancer and Conjurer Aethusa are accounted for at least!

...Maybe thats it, there are seven of them? Nah that doesn't explain where the conjurer one came from and where 4 of them still are...

But yeah, hmm, one of two Aethusa killed the other one so... Yeah, I can't guess this mystery correctly xD


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Oh come on, she's the same person due to shenanigans. It's obvious! :p

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