Hi everyone. I had a few questions I was hoping to get some help with.
1) Can these gloves be worn on the same hand as a Cestus?
2) If I just wore these gloves without a Cestus would I be considered threatening for flanking purposes?
3) Do I have to use this as a standard action? I guess I could cast it the round before but if the previous round I want to use bestow curse I would imagine the next round I would have to spend a standard action to use the vampiric gloves? And if I provoked while casting that would make me lose one of my three charges?
Any help greatly appreciated, thanks all for your time.
1) technically yes. Ask your GM though, and the cestus would impart the normal penalties to using that hand for a touch attack. See cestus description.
2) The gloves just allow you to cast a spell which gives you a free touch attack. So no, the gloves in and of themselves don't make you threaten. You're character may have other reasons to threaten. Even carrying a (light or heavy) shield in one hand would make you threaten since it can be used as a weapon. The same would apply for armor spikes.
Though while you have a touch spell in hand, you do threaten with it. So you could activate the gloves and hold the charge as long as you don't touch anything.
Ahh I didn't know a shield would threaten on it's own.
Would I be able to cast other touch spells (bestow curse for example) with the hand that is wearing the vampiric gloves?
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Though while you have a touch spell in hand, you do threaten with it.
You are considered armed only when discharging the spell in same round you cast it (so you don't provoke AoO twice: once for casting, and once for delivering the charge). However, if you hold the charge, you don't threaten with it and you would need Improved Unarmed Strike (or use a natural attack) to deliver the charge without provoking AoO.
If you don’t discharge the spell in the round when you cast the spell, you can hold the charge indefinitely. You can continue to make touch attacks round after round. If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges. If you cast another spell, the touch spell dissipates. You can touch one friend as a standard action or up to six friends as a full-round action. Alternatively, you may make a normal unarmed attack (or an attack with a natural weapon) while holding a charge. In this case, you aren’t considered armed and you provoke attacks of opportunity as normal for the attack. If your unarmed attack or natural weapon attack normally doesn’t provoke attacks of opportunity, neither does this attack. If the attack hits, you deal normal damage for your unarmed attack or natural weapon and the spell discharges. If the attack misses, you are still holding the charge.
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Though while you have a touch spell in hand, you do threaten with it.You are considered armed only when discharging the spell in same round you cast it (so you don't provoke AoO twice: once for casting, and once for delivering the charge). However, if you hold the charge, you don't threaten with it and you would need Improved Unarmed Strike (or use a natural attack) to deliver the charge without provoking AoO.
If you don’t discharge the spell in the round when you cast the spell, you can hold the charge indefinitely. You can continue to make touch attacks round after round. If you touch anything or anyone while holding a charge, even unintentionally, the spell discharges. If you cast another spell, the touch spell dissipates. You can touch one friend as a standard action or up to six friends as a full-round action. Alternatively, you may make a normal unarmed attack (or an attack with a natural weapon) while holding a charge. In this case, you aren’t considered armed and you provoke attacks of opportunity as normal for the attack. If your unarmed attack or natural weapon attack normally doesn’t provoke attacks of opportunity, neither does this attack. If the attack hits, you deal normal damage for your unarmed attack or natural weapon and the spell discharges. If the attack misses, you are still holding the charge.
im sorry but that is wrong as far as i know. anytime you deliver a charge attack as a touch attack it doesn't provoke, not only in the first round.
the rule you brought talk about if you try to deliver the charge with a normal unarmed attack since you lose the armed statues from the charge. as now you need to hit normal ac and not touch ac and the charge only discharge if you hit with THAT attack. so if it doesn't count as armed by itself then you provoke as normal.if you deliver the charge with an unarmed strike you are not proficiant (no improved unarmed) then hiting touch ac but not normal armored ac won't discharge, so the fact the attacks is also charged is not threatening as trying to touch and discharge which allways count as armed for aoo.
from unarmed attackes in combat section:
"“Armed” Unarmed Attacks: Sometimes a character’s or creature’s unarmed attack counts as an armed attack. A monk, a character with the Improved Unarmed Strike feat, a spellcaster delivering a touch attack spell, and a creature with natural physical weapons all count as being armed (see natural attacks)."