If vikings were the inspiration for the shield blocking / damaging rules, shouldn't Barbarians be proficient with shields? Or all vikings fighters? I view them as Barbarians. Lightly armored berserkers / raiders / sailors.
I had a halforc Barbarian with a shield and it will be sadly missed!
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If vikings were the inspiration for the shield blocking / damaging rules, shouldn't Barbarians be proficient with shields? Or all vikings fighters? I view them as Barbarians. Lightly armored berserkers / raiders / sailors.
I agree. It was quite a surprise that both the barbarian AND the ranger lack shield proficiency.
Sword and board vikings and shield bash rangers are going to be a little more rare now.
I do mind seeing Shield Barbs gone.
I do not mind seeing Shield Bash Rangers gone – I think a shield isn't what someone who wanders the wilderness would use as it impairs their ability to maneuver. Shield Bash Rangers were popular in PF1 due to how Shield Mastery and Combat Style Feats interacted, but I don't think they need to be included here.
I do mind seeing Shield Barbs gone.
I do not mind seeing Shield Bash Rangers gone – I think a shield isn't what someone who wanders the wilderness would use as it impairs their ability to maneuver. Shield Bash Rangers were popular in PF1 due to how Shield Mastery and Combat Style Feats interacted, but I don't think they need to be included here.
But history says otherwise! Vikings man, Vikings!
PS - I do not want any version of PF or D&D to be historically accurate, but I do want Barbarians with shields
I'm saying Shield Barbs should be there!
I'm saying Shield Barbs should be there!
My mistake, I was in a RAGE, and misread.
apologies.
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I was gonna actually post some kennings for "shield" just to show how important they were in viking culture too :P
I was gonna actually post some kennings for "shield" just to show how important they were in viking culture too :P
you could still post them, i'm interested!
I agree barbs need shields. And maybe a two weapon fighting feat while there at it too.
It's sad to see the class getting stereotyped into Conan Barbarian rather than Viking Barbarian. Though given the new shield mechanics, perhaps it's not too much of a loss after all.
A viking with a shield?!? Horned helmets, that's to be expected. But shields?! When's the last time you heard about vikings carrying brilliant-colored moons of battle?
When I think vikings, I think, like, naked dudes running with two axes, not wound-seas sprayed upon the shame of swords.
No idea why you think that shield-Njordrs should have access to plentiful ring-meadows.
It's sad to see the class getting stereotyped into Conan Barbarian rather than Viking Barbarian. Though given the new shield mechanics, perhaps it's not too much of a loss after all.
It's sad to see Conan Barbarians stereotyped into Conan Barbarians :P