Uh, I think bestiary text accidentally make lot of monsters always evil


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So since monster's alignment is only listed in its trait with chaos/evil/lawful, it means that when reader goes to check what evil trait means, it says this:

"Evil Evil effects often manipulate energy from evil-aligned Outer
Planes and are anathema to good divine servants and divine
servants of good deities. A creature with this trait is evil in
alignment."

So uh yeah if I read this correctly, wouldn't this would make (for example) manticore to radiate evil and that all manticores are evil just like fiends are? Or do I misunderstand what alignment traits means?


It's talking about two things there: "evil effects" and "creatures with the evil trait." It's basically saying evil effects (i.e. evil powers) are "evil" because they use energy from evil-aligned planes. It then tells you that creatures with the evil trait are evil-aligned -- as opposed to being from an evil-aligned plane. Other than telling you how to read the "evil" trait in their own contexts, the two sentences have nothing to do with each other.


I see the problem here. The evil trait - what was in the past evil subtype should be restricted to beings that are wholly evil, like devils or demons. The alignment itself should be separate from traits.


Drejk wrote:
I see the problem here. The evil trait - what was in the past evil subtype should be restricted to beings that are wholly evil, like devils or demons. The alignment itself should be separate from traits.

I imagine they got rid of the distinction on purpose because too many people got confused by "evil outsider" vs "outsider(evil)". So, no more evil subtype, just alignment.

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