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Castilliano wrote:

As somebody mentioned, likely the PF veterans skipping the char-gen walk-through are the ones taking longer. Also, veterans tend to rely on system mastery a bit more, which most won't have. So they take time reacquiring it and end up looking up all those options to weigh them against each other. Or looking up all the cheap magic or alchemy. Or every domain ability rather than run with one. Etc.

The system is a snap if you just run with an idea with few worries. Since there are fewer traps in PF2 plus retraining, and it's a playtest (!), one might as well.

It's not just PF vets skipping the character-gen walk through seeing a ridiculous amount of time spent on character creation. The book has info you need in multiple spots so if you're not noting everything down from the very start of character creation you're gonna spend a bunch of time flipping or scrolling back and forth. A chart that gives you all of the basic information on all of the classes, ancestries, and backgrounds would go a long way to smoothing this out.

I read the character creation walk through 4 times and watched the walk through they did on leading up to the release...the lowest I've gotten time for creation down to is 42 minutes all said. While yes, I agree that veterans should be comparing the time they spend on characters in new systems to how much they're spending on these characters NOT how much they regularly spend on a PF1e character, most of the people in this thread do seem to be doing so.

The time being spent is really concerning when compared to other first characters. I spent more than 3 hours on my first PF2.0 character, comparable to my first 3.5 character (literally my first character ever), half the time of my first AD&D character, and only an hour less than my first Shadowrun character. Add in that my first 4e character took about an hour, 5e about 20 minutes, and half an hour - with restating! - for Pathfinder 1e...I'm not particularly impressed with the character creation in PF2.0.

Hopefully the devs will pay attention to the concerns being brought about how long it's actually taking people. I'd love to see some run throughs how those on this thread are getting through so fast since the only explanation I've seen so far was that they had their character mostly built prior. That and hear how long it takes people with minimal experience in tabletop RPGs.

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