| xSaber0022 |
So one of our players is making a White Necromancer.
What I need to know is how NPC’s and so on should react to him using necromancy.
Our GM says him using necromancy is not evil, it’s the enslavement of the soul that’s evil, which White Necromancer’s don’t do that, but people seeing him using necromancy will see him as evil, so what will they do when he does it? Will they try to kill him, banish him from the town, etc?
| Nyerkh |
First off : it's a third-party thing, if your GM wants to integrate it the details of how entirely depends on him, what necromancy is in his world and how he wants to handle it. He's really the one you should ask about that stuff.
Normally the real evil part of necromancy is the undead creation part, the rest is usually fairly okay, or at least not worse than the rest of magic.
This white necro thing starts by making evil necromancy spells harder to cast, which is uncommon for arcane magic, then makes undead creation not evil, removing control and forcing respect. Makes sense.
Reactions from people depends on whether or not white necromancy is a known thing in this world. If it's commonplace, no reason to get into trouble.
If he is the first and only one ever, he will spend his life hiding. At least until he's influent enough to make the world change its mind.
| Meirril |
I really don't get how this class is suppose to work. Wouldn't this set up for necromancy require that undead not be inherently evil and attack living creatures? Pathfinder Zombies and other mindless undead are just assumed to attack living creatures that enter their sight unless they are controlled and ordered not to. Even if they ignore the White Necromancer, they shouldn't ignore the WN's party.
The same for intelligent undead. Just because the guy that raised you isn't evil, and the spell that raised you isn't evil, doesn't mean they lose the cravings inherent to the type of creature they are. Ghouls will still crave human flesh, Vampires blood, and most of the rest "life force" if they drain.
Mostly I think even in the most forgiving of settings they should be treated like "dangerous lunatics" because they make deals with monsters. This same outlook applies to a lot of other classes!
| Nyerkh |
The class itself solves the "inherently evil" part of the problem, by simply changing those rules.
For the rest of the world, it still depends on whether they know it is a possibility to begin with - and how he uses it. If people can't make tbe difference between white and regular necromancy, they won't bother asking the dude what his life philosophy is.
Good news is, he's pretty much obligated to also be a decent diplomancer, because those "good undeads" require some convincing.
Furthermore, even of he doesn't turn them into flesh-eating murderous abominations, if he decides to make tame, neighbourly zombies out of grandma, lil'Tim the much mourned young vic, the widower's freshly passed spouse and the late sir Fluffington the beloved housecat, just because he can and he might get some mileage out of their corpses : people will still hate him. Evil or not.
I stick to my "your GM knows how white necro works in his world, socially, better than we here ever could", and I'll raise you a "that guy also better show some actual respect and compassion to the living as well".
I mean, one of those "white necromancer" who reserves all his attention and reverence for the dead and none for the living people could be hilarious, but I don't see it working long-term without a lot of issues.
As a side-note, this should probably go the 3rd party forum ?