Environmental dangers


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Can environment effects like cold weather and the like maybe be handled better this time? Someone in normal (not made for cold weather) clothes in -20 weather (or effective -20 after wind chill) won't usually have meaningful Frostbite until after about a half hour, whereas in PF1 the average commoner would be dead 10 times over by then. At -20 it should switch to doing automatic nonlethal every 10 minutes with the Fort save to avoid lethal damage, not automatic lethal every minute with the Fort save to avoid nonlethal... What the heck was with that? At -40 it would be this same process but every minute. At - 60 you can start inflicting automatic lethal and go from there.

Lava should automatically kill you when you fall in if not at least resistant to fire. The 20d6 (really should maybe be 20d20 or at least 20d10) lava bath would only get rolled if you have resistance, with a nonresistant character just dying regardless of HP or Fortitude. Proximity damage just from being near it would also be more of a thing, with that being the 2d per round, and with actual contact being way higher.

Windspeed can be fleshed out and extended more as well. The skill and range penalty actually shouldn't ramp up quite so exponentially that fast, but the table should be extended. At the higher windspeeds, it should be able to do damage even without blowing you away, due to bludgeoning force as well as debris carried on the wind. At the highest windspeeds, even trees and boulders can be uprooted and buildings can be destroyed.

And so on...


Im all for more rigourously tested and discussed environment rules for sure. Dunno about lava unless we make it a lot less common though. And as a gm I love my big volcano lairs

Liberty's Edge

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I definitely agree on the Environment Rules. They're absurd. I live in Montana, I've camped in weather that by the PF1 rules, would kill seasoned adventurers, never mind me.

The actual rules are a bit wacky, too, but the temperatures they kick in at are the crazy part. Some people routinely walk around in a t-shirt in less than 40 degree weather around here, for god's sake.

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