Oracle Curse Lich, am I reading this right?


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I was looking at an Oracle build when this caught my attention.

Lich (Horror Realms pg. 14): wrote:

You have (unknowingly) fulfilled most (but not all) of the ritualistic components to achieve lichdom. You have yet to turn into an undead creature, but you are close. You take damage from positive energy and heal from negative energy as if you were undead.

At 5th level, add control undead to your list of 2nd-level oracle spells known

At 10th level, add undead anatomy I to your list of 3rd-level oracle spells known and undead anatomy II to your list of 5th-level oracle spells known

At 15th level, you are immune to death effects.

Control Undead is a 7th level wizard spell. I have to wonder if this isn't a typo and they meant Command Undead, which is a 2nd level spell.

Otherwise the oracle is getting a 7th level wizard spell as a 2nd level spell. The rest of the spells are inline, undead anatomy is a 3rd level wizard spell and undead anatomy II is a 5th level wizard spell.


I'm pretty sure you are right and it is a mistake, but there isn't any way to prove that until/unless they say so.


The funny thing is that Command Undead is in some ways arguably stronger than Control Undead, given that it offers no save for mindless undead and lasts for days, rather than minutes.

But yeah, it seems like there's been a mixup.


Almost certainly a typo, but the developers have said nothing on the matter, so until they do just play it how they wrote it.

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FWIW PFS have errated it to command.


Darrell Impey UK wrote:
FWIW PFS have errated it to command.

well, at least that is something

Thanks!


It's actually hard to say whether it's a mistake, because Control Undead is an extremely underpowered spell and is actually weaker than the 2nd level Command Undead spell in most ways. Especially for a charisma-based caster like the Oracle that can easily make the charisma checks that Command Undead calls for, swapping out Control Undead for Command Undead would actually be a net buff. As a result, it's very hard to conclude the author intent in this case. While it's unprecedented to turn a 7th level spell into a 2nd level spell, as a practical matter it's actually well-balanced with existing options, so it's entirely possible this could have been an intentionally unconventional design decision.

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