Hi there!
I just had a question about having a sorcerer taking both the Wildblooded and Crossblooded archetypes together.
I did read through some older posts on this, but didn't find the answer I was looking for.
My question is this (and assumes a sorcerer [u]can[/u] take both archetypes):
[color=blue]If a sorcerer is a crossblooded archetype and decides to take the wildblooded archetype as well, do both bloodlines have to be mutated?
Or can you take one normal bloodline and one mutated?[/color]
The only example I've seen of a this mix is the "Irriseni Feycaller" suggested role found in the [u]People of the North[/u] (PoN) supplement (p. 19).
One of the options is a crossblooded sorcerer with both he rime-blooded and sylvan bloodlines.
Which are both wildblood/mutated bloodlines.
Just wondering because Hero Labs lets me build crossblooded and wildblood mixes that have one mutated bloodline and one regular bloodline.
For example, it allows you to make a sorcerer with both a Black Dragon and Primal Earth bloodline.
Which would mean the combined arcanas would allow +2 per die damage on acid-damage spells (but does mean said sorcerers are much less inspiring on the damage from other elemental spells).
I read through UM but couldn't find anything in the description of either archetype that specifically said both bloodlines must be mutated if you mix the crossblooded and wildblooded archetypes.
Anyway, if there is a definitive answer out there on this one, I'd like to know it.
Mostly so I don't try playing a character that ought not be played.
Thanks in advance!
RAW, you can not have two archetypes that change the same thing. Wildblooded and Crossblooded both change bloodlines, so they aren't compatible. Don't rely on anything Hero Labs says. It isn't official.
That being said, Crossblooded has optional replacements and I'm not sure how those would work. There shouldn't be any reason why you couldn't get Primal Earth Wildblooded with Black Dragon normal.
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No, because the archetype rules say none of the alternate class features can replace or alter the same class feature from the class as another alternate class feature. Because the crossblooded and wildblooded sorcerer archetypes both alter the bloodline arcana and bloodline powers, they aren't compatible archetypes.
Note that it is certainly within the GM's purview to allow this combination. However, the character should not be able to use the crossblooded archetype's ability to select a lower-level bloodline power that was replaced by the wildblooded archetype. For example, a wildblooded brutal (abyssal) sorcerer replaces "strength of the abyss" with "wings of the abyss" at 9th level; the character has "paid" for the wildblooded archetype by giving up "strength of the abyss," and can't use the crossblooded bloodline to select "strength of the abyss" as her 15th-level or 20th-level bloodline power.
Okay, thanks for that. I'll just assume that you ought not have a sorcerer with both those archetypes.
It had me scratching my head, though.
Because PoN had a suggested role using a character that was both. I'm guessing that was either an editing error or the FAQ bit above came out after PoN was published.
And of course those were both published in the same year!
I realise too that while Hero Labs usually has it right, it doesn't absolutely always has it right.
The definitive rule answer is the faq entry that explains why you cannot take both archetypes. If a gm were to allow it anyway the specific rules would be what they say they are.
I have not played druids or hunters. As yet.
I'll keep that in mind, though...