5 Foot Steps and Failed Movement


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"You can move 5 feet in any round when you don’t perform any other kind of movement. Taking this 5-foot step never provokes an attack of opportunity. You can’t take more than one 5-foot step in a round, and you can’t take a 5-foot step in the same round that you move any distance."

Say you're next to an enemy and decide to normally move away. Unfortunately, this provokes an AoO and the enemy trips you, so you fall prone in your starting square. You stand up as another move action (two move actions used so far).

At this point, which is true?

1, you can 5 foot step still because you didn't actually move any distance and the rule is "you can’t take a 5-foot step in the same round that you move any distance"

or

2, you cannot 5 foot step because you performed a move action on failed movement and the rule is "You can move 5 feet in any round when you don’t perform any other kind of movement"


I'd say that even in case 2, you didn't actually perform any other kind of movement. You attempted to do a movement and failed.


Standing up is a "kind of movement", so you can't 5-foot step.

Liberty's Edge

*Thelith wrote:
Standing up is a "kind of movement", so you can't 5-foot step.

Standing up is a move action, but not movement.

@Balkoth

PRD wrote:


Take 5-Foot Step

You can move 5 feet in any round when you don't perform any other kind of movement.

PRD wrote:


Moving: Moving out of a threatened square usually provokes attacks of opportunity from threatening opponents. There are two common methods of avoiding such an attack—the 5-foot step and the withdraw action.

The attack of opportunity happen when you are leaving the square, so you have moved. Maybe only half a step, but you have started your movement.


Diego Rossi wrote:
The attack of opportunity happen when you are leaving the square, so you have moved. Maybe only half a step, but you have started your movement.

I suspect someone arguing #1 (like Melkiador) would claim that if you get tripped before leaving your square (and thus fall prone in your square) then you haven't effectively moved.

So that's effectively 1 vote for #1 (Melkiador) and one vote for #2 (Diego).

I agree that standing up from prone doesn't preclude a 5 foot step.


you attempted movement there for you can not take a 5 foot step, however you could make a 5 foot step if you used something as a move action that was not movement like a kintetisist's gather power ability

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