I'm wrong, and I'm deleting the link so that misinformation doesn't get out there. Thanks!
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If you have DR/Magic your attacks count as magic for overcoming DR
If your attacks count as magic for overcoming DR you can attack incorporeal
I'd stop correcting them, as they are right in how it works.
As to the way you have titled your thread - one should always be careful, just in case they are the ones who are wrong.
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Yup, you kinda stepped in it there, outshyn.
Incorporeal Creatures and "Counts as Magic": Say I have an attack that counts as magical for the purpose of bypassing damage reduction, such as from the monk's ki pool (magic). Does that mean I can't harm an incorporeal creature at all, since the attack doesn't count as magical for that purpose?
Such attacks should also be able to harm incorporeal creatures as if the attack was magic. This will be reflected in future errata.
It seems unlikely the ruling was intended to apply only to monks; that's definitely not how it's worded.
And gameplay-wise, having powerful monsters being completely helpless to incorporeal undead under the control of a PC necromancer seems like a bad thing.
it is being interpreted that monsters with DR/magic ALSO get magical attacks and can all hit incorporeal creatures.
It's not that they get any *additional* attacks. It's just that the attacks that they do get count as magical attacks, and can hence hit incorporeals (for half damage, as usual) rather than just whiffing through thin air.
What I'm curious about is where a guy like Outshyn got the mistaken impression that this wasn't the case?
Yeah, I think you guys are right. If I can delete/edit this, I will.
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The original post was something along the lines of, "These people on another forum are spreading the misinformation that monsters with DR/magic can damage incorporeals!"
And it had such an appealing clickbaity title that one couldn't help but get drawn in.
Probably best to let it die.
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'Please Ignore' pulled me in, bit like a button with 'Do not push' printed on it.
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Do not favorite this post! The consequences could be tragic!
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You may however favorite this one and only good things will happen!
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Leave it to rysk to throw off my experiment by favoring both.
Now their just having fun...
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The current thread title is calibrated to draw in people who are vulnerable to reverse psychology, so mine is at an advantage.
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The current thread title is calibrated to draw in people who are vulnerable to reverse psychology, so mine is at an advantage.
That is a solid Theory. I suspect that to hold but we won't know till all the data points are in.
Edit: also stop favoring your own! that's cheating!
Obviously, I can no longer see what the original post was, but in most cases it's better not to remove your posts even if you've been mistaken - the topic would then make sense to future readers, and other people with the same question or confusion could benefit from the responses.
I weighed that against the fact that I was the wrong one and was spreading misinformation, albeit accidentally. I had a chance to kill the entire chunk of misinformation, so that it simply doesn't exist and cannot mislead anyone. I'll take that as a win.
Do not read the first word of this post.
I try to be wrong at least three times by lunch. : D
Happy gaming!
I'd like to think I'm wrong at least a few times every day.
I might be wrong about that though.
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Excuse me, which way to the Succubus in a Grapple thread?
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Don't worry: every way leads there eventually.
Obviously, I can no longer see what the original post was, but in most cases it's better not to remove your posts even if you've been mistaken - the topic would then make sense to future readers, and other people with the same question or confusion could benefit from the responses.I weighed that against the fact that I was the wrong one and was spreading misinformation, albeit accidentally. I had a chance to kill the entire chunk of misinformation, so that it simply doesn't exist and cannot mislead anyone. I'll take that as a win.
It's okay to be wrong. Someone needs to be for every disagreement.
It's better to have a papertrail of discovery than an attempted retraction in the digital age. Even if I say "the sky is plaid" and someone finds this thread, they will also find the rebuttal where I am proven wrong. If I am. Maybe the sky is plaid. I'm not sure. I'm indoors right now, without a window, so it's hard for me to authoritatively say what the sky looks like.
Also, "please ignore" is a very tempting subject. As a sentence, it's missing an object, so at the very least folks are going to want to know what they're supposed to ignore. Having clicked on the the thread, I'm disappointed to discover I still don't know what to ignore.
But thanks for the entertainment.