Arcane bond- musical instrument?


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I am currently considering playing a 'magician' bard. Seems like an interesting alternate class type, w/ the arcane bond feature added. I saw recent discussions of people asking essentially the same question for a kind of "El Kabong" arcane duelist bard, and I'm wondering that same thing: Is incorporation of one of the wizard-permitted bonded items (e.g wand/staff/ring) into a musical instrument permitted? E.g Can a flute also be a wand, or can the 'bonded item' wand be inside the bow of a violin or the legs of a piano? Basically, I want to shoot lightning bolts out of the bard's favorite musical instrument [using the other stuff permitted by the 'magician' alternate type]. Is this allowed?


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#1 Totem spear: a weapon that's also a wind instrument.
#2 Create new weapon rules from weapon master book: an example of this was the :

War Flute
This iron flute whistles when used to make attacks, unless its many holes are filled with cork or wax.

Price 16 gp; Type one-handed melee; Proficiency martial; Damage (M) 1d8; Damage (S) 1d6; Critical ×2; Weapon Group hammers; Weight 7 lbs.
QUALITIES

Improved damage (3), tool (musical instrument) (0), weapon feature (distracting, performance) (4)

As to (e.g wand/staff/ring)... Nothing that I know allows for non-weapon instruments.


I super vaguely remember a weapon from 3.5 that basically was a short sword that doubled as the bow of a violin. There's also the tuned bowstring if you want to go the bow route, but it's quite pricey.


In this case I'm looking at the magician, not the 'arcane duelist' variant. Weapons aren't allowed for magicians. And I'm leaning pretty strongly towards the magician for the general character concept in mind.


Clarify: weapons aren't allowed as bonded objects for the magician variant.


Though I do realize that the tuned bowstring is very cool.


weathermancer wrote:
Basically, I want to shoot lightning bolts out of the bard's favorite musical instrument [using the other stuff permitted by the 'magician' alternate type].

Probably the best way to do this is the Spellsong feat. I don't think think there's any way to make your instrument a bonded item, and it's a rather severe downside to have such a bulky bonded object anyways so I wouldn't advise it even if it were possible.


Dasrak wrote:
weathermancer wrote:
Basically, I want to shoot lightning bolts out of the bard's favorite musical instrument [using the other stuff permitted by the 'magician' alternate type].
Probably the best way to do this is the Spellsong feat. I don't think think there's any way to make your instrument a bonded item, and it's a rather severe downside to have such a bulky bonded object anyways so I wouldn't advise it even if it were possible.

Interesting feat. I am more than willing to accept downsides, this character is somewhat deliberately absurd.


weathermancer wrote:
Clarify: weapons aren't allowed as bonded objects for the magician variant.

I think you missed something... Staff is a weapon. As such, there is no reason you couldn't take that War Flute and make it a flute staff. As such, use the new weapon rules from weapon master book to make the staff/instrument you want.


It looks like this is a “ask your GM” thing, since Arcane bonds have to be from a very specific group of objects.

I’d definitely allow it if I were your GM, for what it’s worth. That sounds like a cool idea.


As a GM, I'd also allow it.

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