Is Draining Infusion useless for Phytokineticists?


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By the RAW and therefore in Pathfinder Society games is Draining Infusion useless for Phytokineticists (Kineticsts whose element is wood)?

Draining Infusion only affects creatures with a subtype that matches you Kinetic blasts element and as far as I know the wood subtype does not exist?


Welcome to playing Kineticist! Draining Infusion is really only needed for energy blasts anyways. You might have an issue if you come across a Positive Energy Elemental, but if your primary blast is Positive, you've got bigger problems anyways.

Dark Archive

That infusions hardly does anything for any kineticst mate.You are already wild talent starved harder than any other class with talent system.Dont make it harder on yourself.BTW yeah it doesnt do anything for you.

EDİT:I know lot of people will hate this comment but almost all of the kineticst archtypes are bad due to how the class itself is starved.Since they dont want the make an archtype that is like an upgrade they have to take somethings from you.Problem starts there.You dont have anything you can give and you can never get something better.So taking an archtype in 1pp is a bad thing to do.Just stay away from the archtypes.I know they look cool.But that is all they do.They just look cool on paper.

Scarab Sages

something random wrote:

By the RAW and therefore in Pathfinder Society games is Draining Infusion useless for Phytokineticists (Kineticsts whose element is wood)?

Draining Infusion only affects creatures with a subtype that matches you Kinetic blasts element and as far as I know the wood subtype does not exist?

If anything, it's even worse for Chaokineticists - when's the last time you ran into a Zero-Point Energy Elemental???


Well, according to Mark, it works on negative energy critters like undead. So there's that.

Grand Lodge

I was certainly never planning on taking/using it.


I'd houserule that it works on creatures of the plant type. I'm a fairly lenient GM though...


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Kristal Moonhand wrote:
Well, according to Mark, it works on negative energy critters like undead. So there's that.

Not quite true, I had asked him for clarification for it later on, and here is his response to that: The Second Response.

Mark Seifter wrote:
They aren't really tagged, so you'd have to find them on a case-by-case basis. Most likely beings literally born of the void, of which I can recall sceaduinar and nightshades off the top of my head.

Scarab Sages

TrinitysEnd wrote:
Kristal Moonhand wrote:
Well, according to Mark, it works on negative energy critters like undead. So there's that.

Not quite true, I had asked him for clarification for it later on, and here is his response to that: The Second Response.

Mark Seifter wrote:
They aren't really tagged, so you'd have to find them on a case-by-case basis. Most likely beings literally born of the void, of which I can recall sceaduinar and nightshades off the top of my head.

Not good enough. I'm sick of 'void' being lazily equated with gravity and negative energy - I WANT ZERO-POINT ENERGY ELEMENTALS, dammit!

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