Cleric deity which has the Void and Good domains


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Hoping I could get some assistance here from you fine folks. I'm looking for a deity that supports both Good and Void domains.

Second question is, does a cleric have to pick a deity?

Thanks all.


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Not quite a deity, but Black Butterfly, the empyreal lord, offers both those domains. And I think Pathfinder rules do require that a cleric be backed by someone or -thing. At the very least, there are a lot of quasi- and demi-powers floating around for a player to choose from.


nope clerics don't need a god


If you’re playing in accordance with Golarion canon, then yes, you must worship a deity if you are a cleric.

Anything else is by GM discretion.


Depends, are you playing in a home game with GM created mythos? Ask the GM. Are you playing PFS or in a Golarion specific campaign? Clerics must serve a specific deity.

Shadow Lodge

A deity is necessary in PFS and IIRC Golarion as written. Not necessarily by the CRB, which says: "While the vast majority of clerics revere a specific deity, a small number dedicate themselves to a divine concept worthy of devotion—such as battle, death, justice, or knowledge—free of a deific abstraction. (Work with your GM if you prefer this path to selecting a specific deity.)"

Shadowmehr's correct about the Black Butterfly.

You could also ask your GM about the "philosophy cleric" and be prepared to make a good case for the character concept and why it requires those two domains. Be prepared to forfeit favoured weapon.

Or you could be a Separatist of any Good deity with the Void domain at reduced power, or a CG Separatist of Azathoth, Yog-Sothoth, or Groetus (all CN deities with the Void domain) with the Good domain at reduced power.


Black butterfly almost works, was hoping the deity or empyral lord or whatever would allow the casting of Lawful spells.


The separatist cleric archetype lets you pick a domain that is not from your deity.

Edit: Ninja'd


Atalius wrote:
Black butterfly almost works, was hoping the deity or empyral lord or whatever would allow the casting of Lawful spells.

unless its for pfs just don't have a deity and have the void and good domains and be lawful or neutral to cast lawful spells

Shadow Lodge

Yeah, if you need to cast Lawful spells then your options are a philosophy cleric or the Separatist.

Tsukiyo (LG) might be a thematic choice for a Separatist, since he's associated with the moon and spirits and has the Darkness and Madness domains.

As an aside, while I am fine with philosphy clerics in my campaigns I do support a GM's right to disallow them on thematic grounds, such as if they want to convey something about the nature of divine power in the setting.


Hmm ya I'll talk to my GM because I just read about the Separatist and he seems not very good.


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You can cast lawful spells as a follower of the Black Butterfly if you also take the Empyreal Pantheon trait from Distant Shores.

Quote:
Your faith in the empyreal lords accommodates numerous gods, and you are gifted at adapting their wide variety of focuses and lessons to your own life. Select either the law or chaos alignment descriptor. You may cast spells with that descriptor, even if your alignment or that of your god would normally not allow it. Doing so applies the good descriptor to the spell if it does not already apply.

Archives of Nethys link.


hollyfrosty wrote:

You can cast lawful spells as a follower of the Black Butterfly if you also take the Empyreal Pantheon trait from Distant Shores.

Quote:
Your faith in the empyreal lords accommodates numerous gods, and you are gifted at adapting their wide variety of focuses and lessons to your own life. Select either the law or chaos alignment descriptor. You may cast spells with that descriptor, even if your alignment or that of your god would normally not allow it. Doing so applies the good descriptor to the spell if it does not already apply.
Archives of Nethys link.

Nice find! That'll do

Shadow Lodge

Neat trait!

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