Flak thrower or laser net in a turret?

[Wonky Chewbacca]

If a starship weapon with the point property is placed in a turret, can it intercept missiles from any direction? My initial thought is no, as the point weapon entry mentions facing and the turret doesn't really have a facing (plus it makes an overly powerful anti-missile defense), but would like to hear other's opinions.

[Andy Brown]

The point of a turret is to give a weapon the ability to face in all directions. Best place to put a point defence weapon really.

[rook1138]

and it comes at the opportunity cost of not putting a harder hitting/longer range weapon in that spot (without spending more BP for a second mount on a turret/second turret).
I don't really see a problem with a point defense turret.

[Kudaku]

You can absolutely put a point defense weapon in a turret. The advantage is that it can cover you from missiles from any angle, the downside is that PD weapons are typically short range and/or low power compared to other options. IE you sacrifice better offense (by not installing a more powerful gun) to gain improved missile defense.

[Shadowcat48]

for examplein Battlefleet Gothic and Renegade Legion Leviathan... all turrets are used for point defense

[Torbyne]

the idea of a close in weapon/point defense that cant cover massive arcs around a ship is far more head scratching to me.

[Kudaku]

Torbyne wrote:

the idea of a close in weapon/point defense that cant cover massive arcs around a ship is far more head scratching to me.

I spent the longest time writing a reply to this explaining optimal turret zone coverage and traversal angles, linking to wikipedia articles for Centurion C-RAMs and Phalanx CIWS etc, then I reread your post and realized it said "cant" - not "can". I'm an idiot. >__<

[Torbyne]

Kudaku wrote:

Torbyne wrote:

the idea of a close in weapon/point defense that cant cover massive arcs around a ship is far more head scratching to me.

I spent the longest time writing a reply to this explaining optimal turret zone coverage and traversal angles, linking to wikipedia articles for Centurion C-RAMs and Phalanx CIWS etc, then I reread your post and realized it said "cant" - not "can". I'm an idiot. >__<

:P No worries. I actually revised my comment when i was writing it because I was originally thinking of CIWS needing a full 360 coverage but then remembered most ships cant actually do that, they get about 180-270 degrees of coverage and use multiple weapon mounts to get full coverage. i dont think we have anything like that in the game. It would be neat to see "partial turrets" that can shoot out of two or three arcs...

[rook1138]

or a weapon with both the point and the broad category.

[Metaphysician]

Don't forget that point defense guns are fairly cheap, while turret mounts are fairly dear. On a bigger ship, putting cheap point defense guns on each arc might be well worth the cost, in order to free up fewer more expensive turret slots for bigger guns.

[Ravingdork]

Torbyne wrote:

It would be neat to see "partial turrets" that can shoot out of two or three arcs...

Isn't that what gyrolasers are for?

[Lane_S]

A weapon with both broad and point would be nice but doubt we will ever see one. If we do it would have to be a Capital weapon as we already have a heavy point weapon.

Defensive Laser Battery
Size - Capital
Range - short
Damage - 5D8
PCU - 25
BP - 20
Special Point (+16), Broad

[Torbyne]

Ravingdork wrote:

Torbyne wrote:

It would be neat to see "partial turrets" that can shoot out of two or three arcs...

Isn't that what gyrolasers are for?

umm.. oh. yeah. the -2 penalty to them seems arbitrary but yeah, they do pull off 270 degrees of coverage.