Need to kill some demon with magic

[Wevi]

I playing a Ratfolk Sorcerer(Sage). That means I use Int and must have arcane bloodline. But I'm going into a campaign with lots of Demons and I know they got good DR's. So what I'm looking for is spells that would be good against them?

[John Napier 698]

Sonic-based spells. Demons have absolutely NO resistance to Sonics. When you can, get the ones from the CRB, like Shout and Great Shout. If your GM allows spell research in-game, research sonically-substituted versions of Fireball, Lightning Bolt, Ice Storm, and others. Hope this helps.

Edit: coding.

[Tacticslion]

If you put minor effort into it, SR should mostly not be a problem - spell penetration and better version means that you'll probably hit 3/4 of the time, presupposing you're facing a high SR demon of your CR.

Other than that, sonic effects as mentioned; go for touch spells and non-SR save-or-suck.

[Wevi]

John Napier 698 wrote:

Sonic-based spells. Demons have absolutely NO resistance to Sonics. When you can, get the ones from the CRB, like Shout and Great Shout. If your GM allows spell research in-game, research sonically-substituted versions of Fireball, Lightning Bolt, Ice Storm, and others. Hope this helps.

Edit: coding.

Tacticslion wrote:

If you put minor effort into it, SR should mostly not be a problem - spell penetration and better version means that you'll probably hit 3/4 of the time, presupposing you're facing a high SR demon of your CR.

Other than that, sonic effects as mentioned; go for touch spells and non-SR save-or-suck.

How about force damage?

[John Napier 698]

That too, but the damage is rather low for the Force-based spells that I know of, such as Magic Missile and Clenched Fist spells. Magic Missile does a max of 25 points of damage, and Clenched Fist does 19 points of damage.

[RickDias]

Burst of Radiance does a pretty good job. Low damage is a problem, but you can fix that with feats and traits. 5d4 Untyped Damage (vs. Evil only, no Save allowed) plus 1d4+1 Rounds of Blind (Reflex negates blind only, works on all kinds of foes) is pretty good.

10d4 Untyped plus the same Blindness via Intensified Spell is also strong. Esp. if you tack on an Empowered to it. Suddenly you're doing legitimate damage that ignores their elemental resistances.

[John Napier 698]

Don't forget the benefits of "buffing" the front-liners. Invest in some MW Cold-iron weapons. Cast Magic Weapon on them. Cast Magic Circle Against Evil on them. Have the party Cleric cast Bless and Prayer. Have the Clerics get the Alignment Channel feat.

[Volkard Abendroth]

Assuming your party has at least 2 decent melee, the most damaging spell you can cast is Haste. No saving throws, no spell resistance. Provides offence + defense + mobility.

Many spells of the conjuration school will also ignore spell resistance. Summoning is damned powerful if used correctly and there are more than a few conjuration spells that deal damage or modify the battlefield.

[Decimus Drake]

What level?

[Wevi]

Decimus Drake wrote:

What level?

1 Lvl

[Wasum]

How about some Battering Blast build?

[Lady-J]

can you be crossblooded?

[Wevi]

Lady-J wrote:

can you be crossblooded?

Nah I'm keeping with the sage

[Lady-J]

Wevi wrote:

Lady-J wrote:

can you be crossblooded?

Nah I'm keeping with the sage

doesn't answer the question, can you be cross blooded

[Wevi]

Lady-J wrote:

Wevi wrote:

Lady-J wrote:

can you be crossblooded?

Nah I'm keeping with the sage

doesn't answer the question, can you be cross blooded

I'm trying to stay with one archetype, this would be my first time playing a full spell caster. So I'm trying to keep thing simple.

[Azothath]

when facing creatures with Spell Resistance;
buff your party, effect the environment, do some spells that have SR:none (conjurations). Sure Casting is helpful.

When you go against DR, you rely on Knowledge(Planes). Sonic is good, Ear-Piercing Scream. A lot of de-buffs like; ray of enfeeblement, glitterdust, blindness/deafness.

[*Khan*]

Best bet then is Battering Blast. Take Blood Havoc instead of your 1st level sage bloodline power, which sucks anyway. Casterlevel increasing feats like mages tatoo/varisian tatoo, spell specializaton, bloatmage initiate etc.

[Decimus Drake]

Protection from Evil/Chaos will be a useful spell. Do you happen to know what the rest of you group will be playing as?

[Grailknight]

Maximize your knowledge planes, take a drink (Tears to Wine)and hit them with Studied Spell.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/metamagic-feats/studied-spell-metamagic/

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/t/tears-to-wine/

[Lady-J]

Wevi wrote:

Lady-J wrote:

Wevi wrote:

Lady-J wrote:

can you be crossblooded?

Nah I'm keeping with the sage

doesn't answer the question, can you be cross blooded

I'm trying to stay with one archetype, this would be my first time playing a full spell caster. So I'm trying to keep thing simple.

with no access to the orc bloodline you would be better off sticking to non damage spells and focus around debuffing enemies, buffing allies and banishing outsiders