Need help remembering a spell about animating the dead...

[Darkmind]

Our group got together yesterday after about a 2 year hiatus. We spent all afternoon getting back in the groove, making a couple new characters and remembering where we were in our campaign ( Curse of the Crimson Throne).

Before we stopped playing, I remember seeing a spell somewhere that had something to do with taking the spine from a corpse, or the spine of a corpse broke out of the body and became animated ? Something creepy like that. From what I remember, it was pretty high level and I was going to have to bump the caster up to 11th or something like that to be able to cast it. Does this ring a bell with anyone or am I just losing my mind ? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Our group is excited to be back together and I want to get this campaign back on track with some good scares for Halloween. Thanks in advance!

[GM MacShack]

I can't think of anything like that offhand, but if the flavour is what you're after, you could just refluff raise dead (spell level 5 = CL at least 9). Is this for an NPC or a PC? If it's an NPC you can get away with changing things more, since they're your character and not being played by someone else.

[Darkmind]

It's for an NPC. The more I think about it, it seemed the spine may have just been ripped from the body ( of a living person) and not actually become animated, kind of like a "remove spine" spell Ugh, I just cant remember.

[Lathiira]

Only thing that I can think of is the Pharasmin spell defending bone. Though I believe they use femurs, not spinal cords, but I doubt they would care one way or the other.

[Arazni, Harlot Queen of Geb]

Sounds a lot like a necropidius, though those are constructs...

[Benchak the Nightstalker]

Spine Flail?

Not exactly what you're looking for, but it's a spooky thing involving ripping someone's spine out.

[Xenocrat]

Darkmind wrote:

It's for an NPC. The more I think about it, it seemed the spine may have just been ripped from the body ( of a living person) and not actually become animated, kind of like a "remove spine" spell Ugh, I just cant remember.

Decerebrate is a 7th level psionic power (3rd party) that rips out part of the brain stem.

[taks]

Arazni, Harlot Queen of Geb wrote:

Sounds a lot like a necropidius, though those are constructs...

My guess would be that's what he's (she's) remembering.

However:

there are two that appear near the end of book 1,so not nearly in the 11th level ballpark.

They are crafted with CL 7 if it matters. Otherwise, the word "spine" only occurs once in the whole thing (new edition) but in reference to the spine of books.

[Tacticslion]

daught(ry)

[Darkmind]

The more I think about it, if the spine were to come from a living being it would probably be too powerful of a spell seeing as it would be instant death ? Obviously a will save would be involved but still sounds too powerful ? Maybe it was out of a corpse. I will keep looking at all of my materials and see if I can find it. Thanks for all the replies so far.

[taks]

I searched the book and found nothing. If you find a better hint, I can look through it again, but it is a nearly 500 page PDF. :)

[The Sideromancer]

Darkmind wrote:

The more I think about it, if the spine were to come from a living being it would probably be too powerful of a spell seeing as it would be instant death ? Obviously a will save would be involved but still sounds too powerful ? Maybe it was out of a corpse. I will keep looking at all of my materials and see if I can find it. Thanks for all the replies so far.

Wasn't there something in Star Trek TNG about Worf surviving having his spine removed and replaced?

[GinoA]

The Sideromancer wrote:

Darkmind wrote:

The more I think about it, if the spine were to come from a living being it would probably be too powerful of a spell seeing as it would be instant death ? Obviously a will save would be involved but still sounds too powerful ? Maybe it was out of a corpse. I will keep looking at all of my materials and see if I can find it. Thanks for all the replies so far.

Wasn't there something in Star Trek TNG about Worf surviving having his spine removed and replaced?

With a lot of Treknobabble about transporters, replicators and Klingons having ridiculously over-redundant bodies.

[Cevah]

taks wrote:

Arazni, Harlot Queen of Geb wrote:

Sounds a lot like a necropidius, though those are constructs...

My guess would be that's what he's (she's) remembering. ** spoiler omitted **They are crafted with CL 7 if it matters. Otherwise, the word "spine" only occurs once in the whole thing (new edition) but in reference to the spine of books.

The necrophidius is a CL 10 construct, and while the creator must be CL 7, it requires Geas/Quest which is SL 6 (i.e. CL 11).

/cevah

[Coidzor]

Cevah wrote:

taks wrote:

Arazni, Harlot Queen of Geb wrote:

Sounds a lot like a necropidius, though those are constructs...

My guess would be that's what he's (she's) remembering. ** spoiler omitted **They are crafted with CL 7 if it matters. Otherwise, the word "spine" only occurs once in the whole thing (new edition) but in reference to the spine of books.

The necrophidius is a CL 10 construct, and while the creator must be CL 7, it requires Geas/Quest which is SL 6 (i.e. CL 11).

/cevah

So it's really a DC 20 Spellcraft check, DC 25 if you gotta go fast.

Unless you have something to support the need to actually cast Geas/Quest instead of it being as skippable as any other spell listed in a magic item's requirements? The only thing unskippable due to Ultimate Magic was the minimum CL requirement as I recall.