Undead Bane and Ghostslayer

[gatlingxyz]

I'm a little sure that this won't work the way I want it, but it's worth a shot.

Let's say I have an +1 Undead Bane weapon and am fighting a ghost. Because my target is Undead, the enhancement bonus is +2 higher, equaling a 3 total. Cool. Would activating Ghostslayer make the weapon act as ghost touch, or is Ghostslayer still looking at the actual/original enhancement bonus?

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Bane

A bane weapon excels against certain foes. Against a designated foe, the weapon’s enhancement bonus is +2 better than its actual bonus.

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Ghostslayer

As a swift action, you can imbue a weapon you wield with spiritual energies for 1 round. An imbued weapon damages incorporeal creatures as though it were magical. If the imbued weapon has an enhancement bonus of +2 or greater, it functions as a ghost touch weapon. A weapon imbued in this way can deal precision damage (such as sneak attack damage) to incorporeal creatures.

Or, make me feel even better: would Ghostslayer apply regardless, since the total amount of bonuses is 2? This was my original assumption until I reread the feat again.

[blahpers]

Well, the consensus (including James Jacobs) was that a +1 bane weapon could bypass cold iron or silver DR like a +3 weapon when used against its favorite foe, so I would say that works here as well.

Edit: This is because the effective enhancement is +3, not because it has weapon properties taking it up to +2 for costing purposes. A +1 vorpal halberd still only has a +1 enhancement bonus.

[John Murdock]

the weapon is only +3 against its designated foes (that's why it can bypass DR silver and cold iron against those foes), it is not +3 for your abilities, and you need the enhancement to be at least +2 not the total bonus to be +2

[Lady-J]

i would say yes but only against undead incorporeals

[Isabelle Lee]

(Designer here.)

Mr. Murdock has the right of it, by RAW. The imbuing process only looks at the weapon in a vacuum, not relative to the enemy. (Contrast with furious, which would work with Ghostslayer as long as you were raging.)

That said, in a home game, I might be convinced to allow this. ^_^

[Calth]

Isabelle Lee wrote:

(Designer here.)

Mr. Murdock has the right of it, by RAW. The imbuing process only looks at the weapon in a vacuum, not relative to the enemy. (Contrast with furious, which would work with Ghostslayer as long as you were raging.)

That said, in a home game, I might be convinced to allow this. ^_^

Its allowed by RAW. At the time of the check, the imbued bane weapon has greater than a +2, so the ghost touch ability kicks in. If you could only imbue a +2 weapon, then it wouldn't work.

[Isabelle Lee]

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I think you're right. It's been a long day.

Thank you for catching that!

[Calth]

Isabelle Lee wrote:

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I think you're right. It's been a long day.

Thank you for catching that!

Bane does wonky things to rules that depend on enhancement bonuses.

[gatlingxyz]

Yessss!! My plans are not ruined then. Thank you all!