Epic levels for Pathfinder?


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Does anyone know if Paizo has any plans for epic rules for Pathfinder? I don't know where to look for this information.


They do not.

There are technical "guidelines" available in the Core book that you can use (rules from Paizo's own PDF), and you may always update the old 3rd Edition Epic Level Handbook, but Paizo has been explicit that they wanted to do "epic" levels an entirely different way - and so they introduced Mythic rules instead.

Mythic is entirely different from Epic, save that both are very powerful. Mythic effectively gives you a second "track" to follow either at the same time or after your level-ups that doesn't affect your BAB or HD or anything like that, but generates special "mythical" abilities associated with skills, feats, and class features and such that you already have.

Mythic.

Hope that helps!

EDIT: You can also check out the mythic rules from Paizo's own site, but I find that presentation lacking, as it doesn't have any clean introduction, unlike the d20pfsrd.com that I linked. Similarly, you can find really cool Golarion-specific mythic stuff at Archives of Nethys, but none of the generic stuff.

I will always and forever heart the old 3E ELH, myself (though I'd have preferred a "proper" update to 3.5), but Mythic is a pretty awesome system... even if it's still unbalanced and can introduce it's own weird and unexpected problems (much like the epic levels systems of old!).

Also, I added the link to d20pfsrd's record of levels above 20th and the PRD.


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Thanks for the reply.

It does feel like that Mythic rules were made to replace Epic rules. I liked what I saw, but I was trying to figure out how to mix and match epic rules with it. I figured I would ask before I got to invested in the idea.


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There is a set of rules intended to be used with Pathfinder floating around I believe in the Homebrew forums that is quite good, thorough and definitely in the flavor of the 3.0/3.5 ELH. I'll see if I can locate it. and provide a link.


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Dotting for interest.

One thing I have seen is using prestige classes for levels above 20.


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this seems to have been well recieved


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That's the author I was referring to above. The links I've found unfortunately seem to be a dead end at the moment.

And sweet last time I checked it was up to v1.5 and looks as if there is a 1.6 now.


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His website is now jessesdnd instead of jessejackjones


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Excellent, thanks


wish there were epic level rules for 21-60


I'm glad I came back to read this thread again. That epic homebrew was a good read. I offers some powerful features for Wizards. Though, other spell casting classes such as cleric or druid don't progress as well as spell casters.

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