Is this rules legal?
Take 7 levels in wizard (at level 7 take faith magic arcane discovery). Multiclass into Mystic Theurge as you have the ability to cast a level 2 divine spell using a level 3 slot. Put both levels of casting advancement into wizard, as I assume a class that can cast arcane and divine spells is a arcane and divine spell caster. Double your casting advancement for 10 levels. I am new to the game so my apologies if this is wrong.
No, Wizard is not a divine casting class even if a feat, discovery or other ability allows you to prepare divine spells with your arcane slots. So this would not provide double the advancement.
Interesting, I'm pretty sure that a Wizard 7th with Faith Magic does qualify for Mystic Theurge.
Wizard is an Arcane Spellcasting Class and while Faith Magic does allow you to cast a divine spell through the class' spellcasting ability, I don't believe that it makes the Wizard Class a Divine Spellcasting Class. So I don't think you can choose Wizard as the Divine and the Arcane Spellcasting Class with each level in Mystic Theurge.
Even if a wizard with Faith Magic does qualify, being single-classed, they wouldn't get any real benefit from the prestige class.
Even if a wizard with Faith Magic does qualify, being single-classed, they wouldn't get any real benefit from the prestige class.
I just found it interesting that a single-classed character could qualify at all.
Even if a wizard with Faith Magic does qualify, being single-classed, they wouldn't get any real benefit from the prestige class.I just found it interesting that a single-classed character could qualify at all.
That is still up for debate.
Regardless of anything else, I can guarantee that Mystic Theurge is not intended to advance a single class twice and no GM should allow it.
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In the wizard entry it says "A wizard casts arcane spells".
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/
In the arcane magic entry it says "Wizards, sorcerers, and bards cast arcane spells."
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/#TOC-Arcane-SpellsDoesn't this mean that since neither source says a wizard is an arcane caster, just that it casts arcane spells (in the section on arcane casters) that the type of spellcasting is determined by the type of spells you can cast (meaning faith magic makes wizard a divine caster, this allowing for double advancement).
Again, sorry if I'm wrong. No disrespect meant.
Also, I know it's OP. In talking RAW not RAI.
A spell by itself is neither arcane nor divine. There is nothing in the spell that says what type it is. What determines whether a spell is arcane or divine is the class of its caster. Wizard spells are arcane because wizards are arcane casters. Cleric spells are divine because clerics cast divine spells. Cure light wounds is a divine spell when cast by a cleric, but an arcane spell when cast by a bard. Fireball is an arcane spell when cast by a wizard, but a divine spell when cast by cleric with the fire domain.
You _might_ qualify for the Theurgy feat:
Theurgy
You can blend the power of arcane and divine magic.Prerequisites: Wis 13, Int or Cha 13, able to cast 1st-level arcane spells, able to cast 1st-level divine spells.
Benefit: You can augment the power of your divine spells with arcane energy and augment your arcane spells with divine energy.
When casting a divine spell, you may sacrifice an arcane spell slot or arcane prepared spell of that spell’s level or higher as a swift action. The caster level for that divine spell increases by +1.
When casting an arcane spell, you may sacrifice a divine spell slot or prepared divine spell of the same or higher level as a swift action. Half the damage dealt by the arcane spell becomes holy (if you channel positive energy) or unholy (if you channel negative energy).
Your Faith Magic would fall under the paradigms of the example listed in this FAQ here, in that while it grants you the ability to use a Divine spell, that doesn't mean you are a Divine spellcaster, even if you cast said Divine Spell as a Divine Spellcaster normally would. While the example is an SLA, subjects like Faith Magic didn't exist when this FAQ was created, which means the FAQ wasn't written to accommodate such an ability.
Regardless, the Mystic Theurge requirement is that you must be able to cast both 2nd level Arcane spells and 2nd level Divine spells, as the Spellcasting class features from, for example, the Wizard and the Cleric classes, respectively. We can tell that this is the intent of those requirements solely based on the FAQ repealing the aspect of being able to cast a single spell from a single spell level to fulfilling requirements, as not fulfilling the requirements of taking levels in such a prestige class.
So, even if you can argue that RAW, Faith Magic gives you access to Mystic Theurge, it is obviously against RAI, making the odds of a given GM to accept that interpretation very damn slim.
You cannot take that discovery more than once. You pick one spell for it. The discovery does call it a divine spell. Now, MT asks you to be able to cast divine 'spells', plural. As such...on its own, MT wants more diverse spellcasting ability (prereq: cast 2nd-level divine spells, not 'a 2nd level divine spell. You can only cast one divine spell, chosen with the discovery, and only once per day (barring use of things like pearls of power of course). Pedantic, splitting hairs...but I'd go with no for meeting the MT's prereq in this manner.
Lathiira presented my argument better than I probably could.
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Why would faith magic fall under a SLA FAQ? Also, yes it is against RAI. I want to know if it is RAW legal.
Why? If you know what the RAI is, then the RAW doesn't matter. You're a not a dishonest person who wants to cheat by arguing RAW with the GM even though you know what the RAI is, are you?
There is not such thing as "RAW legal". Honestly every rule in the book has to be interpreted, even the most basic ones such as the weapon focus feat, which is fairly straight forward, so everything is RAI.
Benefit: Select one spell granted by a domain belonging to the god you worship. This spell must be at least 2 levels lower than the highest-level wizard spell you can cast. When you first prepare your spells for the day, you can prepare this spell once, using a spell slot 1 level higher than the spell’s actual level. This is cast as a divine spell.
I'd argue that casting it as a divine spell does not actually make it a divine spell - you're simply using the casting rules for divine spells rather than arcane ones.
Of course, even if it did count as divine and managed to bypass the "spells" argument, you still wouldn't progress Wizard levels any faster. Their Spells Per Day feature states you progress a divine casting class and an arcane casting class, and the Wizard is still only an arcane spellcaster.