| Kileanna |
It never gets completely useless, but when you get to fight enemies with true sight, scent, etc. Or enemies that don't need to mke attack rolls, like spellcasters. Then Mirror Image becomes pretty useless. Having high skill rolls so your character knows when an enemy won't be affected by your Mirror Image is really useful.
Grandlounge
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Just a note. Scent does not help with mirror image scent only let's you locate squares.
The nice thing about low level spells is they are easy to quicken. I play a very agressive sorcerer that gets very close to combat. Rolling an arcana check to know if anyone has true seeing up if not quicken mirror image done.
| Snowlilly |
It never gets completely useless, but when you get to fight enemies with true sight, scent, etc. Or enemies that don't need to mke attack rolls, like spellcasters. Then Mirror Image becomes pretty useless. Having high skill rolls so your character knows when an enemy won't be affected by your Mirror Image is really useful.
It just means you have to invest in something that makes True Seeing less reliable.
The spell Non-Detection, for example.
| Atalius |
Atalius wrote:How does Non-Detection help mirror image versus true seeing?Non Detection forces a (DC 15 + caster level) caster level check to use divination on the target.
If you don't pass the caster level check, you cannot see through illusions on the target of the Non Detection spell.
sweet, is that a difficult caster level check to make late game?
| Xenocrat |
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Volkard Abendroth wrote:sweet, is that a difficult caster level check to make late game?Atalius wrote:How does Non-Detection help mirror image versus true seeing?Non Detection forces a (DC 15 + caster level) caster level check to use divination on the target.
If you don't pass the caster level check, you cannot see through illusions on the target of the Non Detection spell.
If they're same level opponents it's about a 25% chance to succeed, if they're higher level (like a boss) they'll do better, but not 50% unless you're fighting something way above your APL.
| Atalius |
Atalius wrote:If they're same level opponents it's about a 25% chance to succeed, if they're higher level (like a boss) they'll do better, but not 50% unless you're fighting something way above your APL.Volkard Abendroth wrote:sweet, is that a difficult caster level check to make late game?Atalius wrote:How does Non-Detection help mirror image versus true seeing?Non Detection forces a (DC 15 + caster level) caster level check to use divination on the target.
If you don't pass the caster level check, you cannot see through illusions on the target of the Non Detection spell.
That is music to my ears! thank you
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At very high levels Mind Blank sorts out true seeing.
Mirror Image still starts to lose out as you encounter things with many attacks. Your best defence is to always stay out of full attack range and make sure there is something between you and an enemy to negate pounce.
Spell storing armor with frigid touch or stricken heart is a good way to avoid pounce.