Goliath druid help -

[Jay707]

I'm building a Goliath druid with the rage domain, and I am running into Rage round problems considering that I count for half barbarian in terms of levels. Are there Feats or traits to bump my Barbarian level to equal my druid level or close to it?

There are feats like Extra rage, and Recovered Rage as well but am looking for more options.

[Jay707]

anyone?

[Grandlounge]

I don't think so extra rage is it really. You do t qualify for berserker of society so that's it.

I have rage a domain character and multiple characters with 1 level Barb or bloodrager dips extra rage once should be fine.

[Abraham Z.]

There are a couple of items (Barbarian Chew, something else) that can get you an extra round of rage.

[Ellioti]

Sympathetic Rage if you have a raging ally can save you your own rounds.

[Cornielius]

Your 3rd level domain spell is Rage.
Make some scrolls for extra daily casting as needed.

I seem to remember that this spells acts as barbarian rage and allows you to use you rage abilities, though I can't document that.

[lemeres]

Cornielius wrote:

Your 3rd level domain spell is Rage.

Make some scrolls for extra daily casting as needed.

I seem to remember that this spells acts as barbarian rage and allows you to use you rage abilities, though I can't document that.

The rage spell doesn't really seem worth it as a buff- +2 str for a standard action? That falls deep into the 'buffs make you weaker since you could have spent the time attacking' territory. It mostly only works as a buff for barbarians/bloodragers, since it lets them turn on rage powers like greater beast totem on without rage rounds (sure, rage domain gets rage powers too...but the 'no level requirement' means you cannot get anything as powerful as pounce)

I view rage more as a debuff- put it on a caster, and suddenly that wizard is more inclined to hit you with his staff than shoot fireballs.

[Imbicatus]

You're giving up bonus spells, but you should be able to take the anger inquisition instead of the rage domain if all you want is rage. Anger inquisition treats your rage level as level -3 instead of half level, which is a much better deal.

[Ellioti]

lemeres wrote:

Cornielius wrote:

Your 3rd level domain spell is Rage.

Make some scrolls for extra daily casting as needed.

I seem to remember that this spells acts as barbarian rage and allows you to use you rage abilities, though I can't document that.

The rage spell doesn't really seem worth it as a buff- +2 str for a standard action? That falls deep into the 'buffs make you weaker since you could have spent the time attacking' territory. It mostly only works as a buff for barbarians/bloodragers, since it lets them turn on rage powers like greater beast totem on without rage rounds (sure, rage domain gets rage powers too...but the 'no level requirement' means you cannot get anything as powerful as pounce)

I view rage more as a debuff- put it on a caster, and suddenly that wizard is more inclined to hit you with his staff than shoot fireballs.

You can later cast Quickened Rage

[Imbicatus]

Actually, rereading the range subdomain it's worse than you think for rage rounds. You can rage a number of rounds equal to your Druid level. You count as a barbarian half your level for determining the effects of rage powers, not for the number of rage rounds.

[Grandlounge]

Anger inqusition

"You can rage a number of rounds per day equal to your Wisdom bonus, plus 1 round for every inquisitor level above 4th."

Rage Domain

"for a number of rounds per day equal to your cleric level"

So you need wisdom mod of +4 for the rage domain to not be better.

Rage domain gets spells, rage powers (many are not level dependent and some even slowly are better than none), and it has a better first level power. The only reason to take the anger inqusition is early rage the I would train out of it two levels later.

[Chess Pwn]

I play PFS, so expectations can vary, but I have 12 rounds of rage (1 level and extra rage feat) on many of my characters and I don't run out of rage rounds in a day. So if you're having issues of running out with that then you're fighting a lot more, or your party isn't good at ending fights quickly.

[Grandlounge]

In addition to what chess pwn has said. You can often not rage for one fight and give yourself a surplus of rounds for the day. Rage may be over kill on your first fight if you skip that one easy fight you will be fine.

[Torbyne]

agreed, Rage is a free action to start so you can hold off until you are best positioned to get a full attack on the BBEG and then only burn a round or two in a fight or not at all if you end up only swinging at mooks.

[lemeres]

Grandlounge wrote:

In addition to what chess pwn has said. You can often not rage for one fight and give yourself a surplus of rounds for the day. Rage may be over kill on your first fight if you skip that one easy fight you will be fine.

And since you are forced to choose between casting and raging, some of your rounds will not be spent raging- and frankly, if you are casting, you wouldn't want to waste one of your limited rage rounds anyway (since the most you could get out of melee is an AoO).

Typically, I would expect a melee druid to perhaps toss out some simple battlefield control spell (like obscuring mist, especially when you have a goz mask), and then start to get into melee in the 2nd or 3rd rounds (using your melee to clean things up).

So even if you go through 6 fights, you might end up only spending 2 rounds on each. This can extend your longevity.

[Jay707]

Thanks for the replies.