| Saethori |
Each creature you conjure with any summon spell gains a +4 enhancement bonus to Strength and Constitution for the duration of the spell that summoned it.
Whenever you summon your eidolon, you may give it a +2 enhancement bonus to its Strength, Dexterity, or Constitution. This bonus lasts 10 minutes after the summoning ritual is complete.
You open a rift between dimensions that summons your eidolon. Treat this as if you had summoned your eidolon normally, except that it only remains with you for the duration of this spell.
So, first, Augment Summoning wants specifically a "summon spell". Summon Eidolon starts with the word summon and it says it summons, so it checks out.
Second, Summoner's Call kicks in whenever you summon your eidolon. It later references a summoning ritual, which would seem to limit it to the "traditional" summoning method... but Summon Eidolon says to treat it as if you summoned it normally. So it checks out.
End result: Your eidolon gets +4 Strength, +2 Dexterity, and +4 Constitution for up to ten minutes of the duration of Summon Eidolon, and the above bonuses sans the Dexterity for the remainder of the spell.
| Lady-J |
Spacelard wrote:I think the 2nd level spell Summon Eidolon was referenced, not the class ability to summon eidolon.Summoning the eidolon is a supernatural ability... and it is not subject to Augment Summoning.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
yup the spell(temporary) will allow the edolon to get the bonuses as it is a spell summoning effect but the normal("permanent")way of summoning will not
| Spacelard |
Spacelard wrote:I think the 2nd level spell Summon Eidolon was referenced, not the class ability to summon eidolon.Summoning the eidolon is a supernatural ability... and it is not subject to Augment Summoning.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing
It wasn't
"Augment Summoning applies to the summon monster SLA as well because it functions as the spell Summon Monster.
The eidolon however does not benefit unless summoned using the Summon Eidolon spell."
It has been thrashed out in the threads years ago if you want to search, during and after playtesting the class. The quote from Jason is from one of those threads discussing if Augment Summon effects the eidolon. You have it the wrong way around.
Augment Summoning works with the 2nd level spell, Summon Eidolon.
Augment Summoning doesn't work with the class ability to summon it, ie you can't spend two feats (which you would take anyway) to get a cheap 'always on' +2 STR/CON to your eidolon.
OilHorse
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OilHorse wrote:Spacelard wrote:I think the 2nd level spell Summon Eidolon was referenced, not the class ability to summon eidolon.Summoning the eidolon is a supernatural ability... and it is not subject to Augment Summoning.
Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo PublishingIt wasn't
"Augment Summoning applies to the summon monster SLA as well because it functions as the spell Summon Monster.
The eidolon however does not benefit unless summoned using the Summon Eidolon spell."
It has been thrashed out in the threads years ago if you want to search, during and after playtesting the class. The quote from Jason is from one of those threads discussing if Augment Summon effects the eidolon. You have it the wrong way around.
Augment Summoning works with the 2nd level spell, Summon Eidolon.
Augment Summoning doesn't work with the class ability to summon it, ie you can't spend two feats (which you would take anyway) to get a cheap 'always on' +2 STR/CON to your eidolon.
No. The OP was referencing the spell not the class ability. That was what I was saying.
So what you are referencing is of no consequence.