Can the startstone be destroyed?


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Just wondering


In your game, if that's the story the GM and the players want to tell, sure.

Just don't expect any future Paizo products to respect what happened in your game.


Well Starfinder doesn't have the Starstone floating around where the planet used to be.


My philosophy is that anything that can be created can also be destroyed. In terms of artifacts (especially major artifacts) it may be unknown how to destroy them. If the artifact is a one-of-a-kind, then the fact that it still exists means that all attempts to destroy it have failed and some new method will need to be tried.

My players dealt with the Bloodstones of Arazni once and decided to try and destroy them in such a way as to restore Arazni's mind and power. Since this had never been done they had to come up with a plan on their own. They consulted with a high level cleric who could reliably answer their questions, but they had to come up with a method on their own, and then risk their lives to test their theory.

Since Paizo hasn't clearly stated just what the Starstone is, exactly what it does, or just how it works (at least to my knowledge), I think it would be very difficult to determine a method to overcome the Starstone's durability.


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You could make a few interesting stories out of this. Here's one:

Perhaps the Starstone is really a different test, one that has been failed spectacularly. What if the Stone was the final remnant of an ancient and mighty world that was destroyed in a cataclysm triggered by the inhabitants' unbridled push for power rivaling the Gods, and the real test is seeing if a being can resist the immense hubris necessary to believe that they deserve the power of divinity?

So far every applicant has failed, falling to the extraordinary arrogance that underlies the dangerous search for power. In this case, if a being were to pass the (false) test of the Stone, then reject the offered divinity, the Stone itself would crumble having finally found a truly worthy being.

This story is also better if we assume that there is a limit to the number of failures (divine ascensions) that can be tolerated before the consequence of failure is visited (world ending seems likely, wouldn't want such reckless arrogance and thirst for power to imperil more worlds).


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I see it as a plot device more so than any artifact so in my gameworld the answer is no. Officially, there is no answer.


Do you mean star-stone instead of start-stone? If not then what is the start-stone?

MDC


The starstone is an Ancients teaching device, unfortunately so very few retain any Ancients DNA, so mostly it just kills them. It currently deflects any damage it takes to Golarian itself, so it is destroy able, at a cost...


No, it's as powerful and indestructible as the Death Star.


Mark Carlson 255 wrote:
Do you mean star-stone instead of start-stone? If not then what is the start-stone?

It's the small electrically actuated spinning lodestone that fires up the engine for the Divinity Drive.


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Only if you have an endstone.


UnArcaneElection wrote:
Mark Carlson 255 wrote:
Do you mean star-stone instead of start-stone? If not then what is the start-stone?

It's the small electrically actuated spinning lodestone that fires up the engine for the Divinity Drive.

Thanks as I had no idea what it was and thought it might be a type-o.

MDC

Edit: Please feel free to laugh out loud and my expense.

MDC


deuxhero wrote:
Well Starfinder doesn't have the Starstone floating around where the planet used to be.

That can just mean that it's gone.... not necessarily destroyed. After the case of a couple of wrong ascensions the Gods may well have decided to take the Starstone into their own hands.

But presumably it's removed from the setting so as to not detract from the overall pulp science theme.

But here's the real answer: ANYTHING can happen if you write the story on and/or around it. That's the magical power of being a GM.


Maybe the Starstone actually is just that, a fallen space rock with no fancy bells and whistles attached. Just a plain old iron-rich dumb rock, in the middel of a trap filled cathedral placed to lure dump adventures to torch it in...
Maybe all the ascended Gods were faking the whole, touch the stone and get incredible power bit, for some obscure purpose.
Maybe it can, or cannot, be destroyed.
Whatever it might be, its up to the story of each GM, to decide what the Starstone is, what power it might have or what its future purpose is, so make up your own idea of whether or not the Starstone can be destroyed.


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IT AM DEFINITELY POSSIBLE. WITH RAGELANCEPOUNCE SMASHER MODE, BARBARIAN FIND AM NO UNATTENDED OBJECTS BARBARIAN AM UNABLE TO SMASH.

BARBARIAN NOT LEAVE IOU 1 STARSTONE NOTE IN MIDDLE OF RIDICULOUS MAZE OF TRIPPY GRAPHICAL EFFECTS FOR NO REASON.

...MAYBE BARBARIAN LEAVE NOTE OUTSIDE MAZE, INSTEAD OF IN CENTER WHERE STONE SHOULD BE. BARBARIAN PRETTY SURE BARBARIAN JUST FIGURE OUT WHY CASTYS AM ALWAYS SO MAD AT BARBARIAN WHEN BARBARIAN SHOWS UP.


deuxhero wrote:
Well Starfinder doesn't have the Starstone floating around where the planet used to be.

or it has grown, and now it is called Absalom Station

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