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What would be the category (Intuitive, Self-Taught or Trained) of the Occult Classes according to the table 5-1 in the Appendix 1 of the Advanced Race Guide (page 248)?
In what category would be the Kineticist, Medium, Mesmerist, Occultist, Psychic and Spiritualist?
Reference: http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/advancedRaceGuide/ageHeightWeight.html
I would say that they should break down as follows:
Intuitive: Kineticist and Spiritualist (you don't know why you can throw fire or why you have a friendly ghost* following you around, but you can or you do!)
Self-Taught: Occultist, Psychic (You noticed you had the ability to feel and manipulate the psychic resonance in some items or make your thoughts/feelings affect reality, so you pursued that).
Trained: Mesmerist, Medium (knowing how to affect someone with your stare and knowing the proper rituals to contact and safely channel spirits are things that must be learned)
I do not believe there is an official answer.
* Not actually a ghost.
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Yeah, I would probably put Kineticist and Spiritualist in the Intuitive category and the rest in self-taught.
For reference:
Intuitive: This category includes barbarians, oracles, rogues, and sorcerers.
Self-Taught: This category includes bards, cavaliers, fighters, gunslingers, paladins, rangers, summoners, and witches.
Trained: This category includes alchemists, clerics, druids, inquisitors, magi, monks, and wizards.
Medium might be trained, but I think it (like the Occultist and Psychic) is more similar to a witch than a wizard. And Mesmerist does not strike me as needing more training than a bard or summoner - they're charisma-based spontaneous casters, after all.
I am not sure how true these comments are since in occult realms there are number of universties for psychic magic.
Having a university to train something necessarily mean that the class isn't intuitive or self-taught. For example, there are assuredly swordfighting academies and fencing schools, but the fighter and swashbuckler are both self-taught.
I figure you're intuitive if there's nothing anybody can teach you about your thing, you're self-taught if you figured out the basics on your own but could learn more with guidance, and trained as something you can pretty much only manage if someone taught you the basics (no one will learn to be an alchemist by just mixing stuff at random, drinking it, and seeing what happens.)
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I remeber psychic magicians once idetified by occult society they are invited to join these universties and if anyone outside of occult learns these places existince they got mind wiped about it aswell.Well ı am looking to occult realms for citation right now.
EDİT:Btw my comments doesnt include kineticist.They are intuitive.Well that is my understanding of the class.
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I think you guys are right after all.''Now, Duke Melcat (CE male human ghost aristocrat 2/psychic 5)'' Duke Melcat wasnt a psychic before.So yeah he couldnt have be thought.So being psychic must be intuitve aswell.Well if psychic is intuitive then all of the classes must be aswell.For those wandering he is the duke that pissed of razmir and got himelf and his city decimated.Creating occult location of power named as ''Aerduin’s Folly:''
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I remeber psychic magicians once idetified by occult society they are invited to join these universties and if anyone outside of occult learns these places existince they got mind wiped about it aswell.Well ı am looking to occult realms for citation right now.
EDİT:Btw my comments doesnt include kineticist.They are intuitive.Well that is my understanding of the class.
I forgot that.
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MDC?
As a fanboy of the Occultist, I have no real idea where to place him, as there really isn't a precedent for how they're taught. I get that Rogues became rogues through chance and that Alchemists had to go to school, but where do Occultists fall? I can sorta see them in all categories, depending on the flavour.
Did someone pick up a magically-charged item and it released a shock on its own? Intuitive. Did he study it on his own and unlock secrets? Self-Taught. Or did he go to school for it? Trained.
The only thing referencing it is the few lines of flavour text:
The occultist focuses on the world around him, grounded in the powers that flow throughout his environment. He studies the magic that infuses everything, from psychic resonances left in everyday items to powerful incantations that fuel the mightiest spells.
The occultist channels his psychic might through implements—items that allow him to focus his power and produce incredible effects. For him, implements are more than simple tools. They are a repository of history and a tie to the events of the past. The occultist uses these implements to influence and change the present, adding his legend to theirs. Though some of these implements might be magic items in their own right, most of them are merely of historical or personal significance to the occultist.
So he's studied it. Pretty much all INT-casters are trained or self-taught. Occultists do strike me as the type who explore on their own, rather than go to school and see which items they can activate.
For the other classes, most of the classes seem to toe the line, as do many of the original classes:
Kineticist seems pretty much intuitive. Their powers seem weird enough that I can't picture them getting formalised training or teaching themselves.
Mediom is self-taught. Can't really imagine going to Possession School.
Mesmerist is either intuitive or self-taught, depending on flavour. I can imagine people reflexively using their own force of personality, but also looking into how they can be as persuasive as possible.
Occultist is, as said, probably self-taught.
Psychic is either intuitive (if the psychic powers manifest automatically) or self-taught, as they need to "awaken" their powers. Their disciplines do seem like they require training, though.
Spiritualists are either intuitive or self-taught. Either a ghost suddenly started living with them and they just rolled with it, or they looked into it and unlocked magic by accident.