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Tease huh?
Well then, how 'bout this? :)
A major Kickstarter for Pathfinder RPG and 5th Edition is coming soon!

Dhampir984 |

This is for BOTH Pathfinder and 5E, no worries!
Will the content distribution be equal for each rule set? Or will it be unlocking stretch goals to get content for each rule set? Which could mean that some content is released for one set but not the other because the goal(s) that would equalize it was not met. For the record, I dislike the latter.

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Marc Radle wrote:This is for BOTH Pathfinder and 5E, no worries!Will the content distribution be equal for each rule set? Or will it be unlocking stretch goals to get content for each rule set? Which could mean that some content is released for one set but not the other because the goal(s) that would equalize it was not met. For the record, I dislike the latter.
Can't answer that for certain at this point, but my understanding is that content and stretch goals will be more or less the same for both systems. There might be some differences here and there, simply becasue Kobold Press already has a TON of cool Pathfinder material available, but overall, fans of both game systems should be very happy!

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Midgard Revised: Thoughts on the Midgard Races
I would say that shadow fey, gearforged and darakhul are actual representatives of the setting, as is the Crossroads region. But I will agree that the ones chosen are the most widespread, except the trollkin who I believe are Southlands mostly. I'm glad that choices aren't totally vanilla since kobolds and minotaurs are included.
Bearfolk are something new, I haven't seen them for PF, I'm guessing they are 5e race?
Anyway, getting hyped although I'm not certain I'll be able to back this one.

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This is, as I understand it, publishing Midgard for 5e, but will simultaneously update the timeline for those who play Pathfinder?
Will update things for Pathfinder more than that! Paizo staffer Amanda Hamon Kunz is developing the Pathfinder-specific hardcover for Midgard.
And yes, Bearfolk are somewhat new (in print, anyway). They're a Midgard thing, and first appeared in Tome of Beasts.

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Paraphrasing from Wolfgang ...
The new edition of the Midgard Campaign Setting advances the timeline (slightly) and it *really* expands the material (we’re hoping to add entire new chapters!).
It’s not *required* for anyone, but it develops the setting in interesting ways, such providing one big, awesome hardcover for the setting itself, and then refining tons of player rules material into separate volumes for PFRPG and 5E.
Plus there will be an AWESOME new city map of Zobeck, amazing new world and regional maps (similar to the amazing world and regional maps in the Southlands hardcover), all-new, incredible art, new NPCs and plots, plus lore for things that were only hinted at in the prior edition of the setting.
This is going to be something really special, in other words ... :)

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Midgard Revised: Thoughts on the Midgard RacesI would say that shadow fey, gearforged and darakhul are actual representatives of the setting, as is the Crossroads region. But I will agree that the ones chosen are the most widespread, except the trollkin who I believe are Southlands mostly. I'm glad that choices aren't totally vanilla since kobolds and minotaurs are included.
Bearfolk are something new, I haven't seen them for PF, I'm guessing they are 5e race?Anyway, getting hyped although I'm not certain I'll be able to back this one.
Yeah, I really agree with this. Although, since I have Advanced Races Compendium, I am more or less fine with the changing of core races for Midgard setting. And my game is up and running, so unless someone dies, i think that the races will not be that important for this campaign.
What I'm really excited about is the advanced timeline, though.

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... Although, since I have Advanced Races Compendium, I am more or less fine with the changing of core races for Midgard setting. And my game is up and running, so unless someone dies, i think that the races will not be that important for this campaign.
What I'm really excited about is the advanced timeline, though.
I agree. When I buy this (no ifs about it), it won't be for the crunch part, really. I missed on the Advanced Races because I didn't have the need for more mechanical choices.
Now if we could only convince the Kobolds to make a kickstarter for an AP next :D

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For me it depends. I am not that interested in AP outside the Crossroads. What I'd prefer are long modules, that can be integrated in existing campaigns, but modules that cover races and regions that are not developed, or not developed enough. For instance, drow of Midgard are very underdeveloped. Also, Shadow Plane - no matter how paradoxically that sounds - needs far more development, since it is so integral to the Crossroads region. There is a great book from old Birthright CS, Blood Spawn, and I use it extensively for my Midgard game. My party is now beginning the Dusk Queen, which I greatly expanded and heavily houseruled. For one, the party is getting only 10% XP, since they've missed the chance to attune themselves to the Shadow Plane, and I ruled that the healing spells work as minimized, since the healing in 3.x is Conjuration and in effect conjures positive energy from the Positive energy plane. So, more info on the Shadow Midgard, please :)

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Like the strong, dark dwarven beer of the Ironcrags, the Midgard Kickstarter project has been a long time fermenting- and it's now live!
The dark roads await us, and the deep magic calls. This Kickstarter will bring a whole new world to 5th Edition, and expand the options for Pathfinder RPG players.
Be sure to check out the Midgard Campaign Setting: Dark Roads & Deep Magic kickstarter TODAY!!

Dhampir984 |

How similar (or different) are the HH versus the PG, not counting rules crunchy differences? It seems a little odd to have these 2 different things available versus a 'select a ruleset' option. I'm interested, but I'd be nice to know some more specifics on them.

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How similar (or different) are the HH versus the PG, not counting rules crunchy differences? It seems a little odd to have these 2 different things available versus a 'select a ruleset' option. I'm interested, but I'd be nice to know some more specifics on them.
Good question. The various pledge levels actually do offer various 'select a ruleset' options, including options for PDF and print.
I think the reason these choices are not so 'hard-wired' so to speak, is because plenty of folks play both systems and want the Campaign setting book and then both the Player's Guide (PF) and Heroes Handbook (5E), just as an example.
As for the Player's Guide (PF) and Heroes Handbook (5E), they will be similar in many ways (aside from the obvious difference in rules system!) but there will be some content differences, simply due to differences in the way 5E and Pathfinder handle things.

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So the Campaign Setting itself is rules-neutral?
Correct. The big, impressive core campaign setting book is system neutral (for the most part). The idea is that you can pick up the player book appropriate to your system of choice and you're good to go!
Heck, fans of a system other than Pathfinder of 5E could still pick up the big campaign setting book and then use it in their game with just a little extra work!

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And by "for the most part", the setting book does have rules and mechanical elements in it, they're just in the Appendix. So there's a Pathfinder Appendix and a 5th Edition Appendix covering things like dark magic, certain monsters and NPCs, special items, incantations, and the like.
It's a way for the secret lore and rules to at least have a chance of staying secret, and it means that the super-crunch-heavy player books are really 100% about character options.