Help with use of wands, and charges


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I want to use a wand of mage armor for my Monk so i can still retain my wisdom bonus to AC. I'm still fairly new so i'm unsure exactly how wants work. Do all wands come with 50 uses (like the wand of cure light wounds) or do they vary? Also do i need to have anything speical to use a wand with mage armor charges?

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A wand is simply a holder of 50 charges of a spell.

Just like a CLW wand, the person activating the wand would either need the spell on their spell list, or would need to make a successful DC 20 use magic device check.

A wand of mate armor, in PFS would have a one hour duration per spell (since it would be a caster level 1 spell, unless you had a better one on a chronicle)


Jack Brown wrote:

A wand is simply a holder of 50 charges of a spell.

Just like a CLW wand, the person activating the wand would either need the spell on their spell list, or would need to make a successful DC 20 use magic device check.

A wand of mate armor, in PFS would have a one hour duration per spell (since it would be a caster level 1 spell, unless you had a better one on a chronicle)

If my character lacks the check could i loan it to a wizard in the party (if one exists) and have them easily use the wand on me when need be?

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Tenkinos wrote:
Jack Brown wrote:

A wand is simply a holder of 50 charges of a spell.

Just like a CLW wand, the person activating the wand would either need the spell on their spell list, or would need to make a successful DC 20 use magic device check.

A wand of mate armor, in PFS would have a one hour duration per spell (since it would be a caster level 1 spell, unless you had a better one on a chronicle)

If my character lacks the check could i loan it to a wizard in the party (if one exists) and have them easily use the wand on me when need be?

Yes.

You could even loan it to a different character that has UMD to use the wand on your character. The Mage Armor spell is touch, so there is no problem with casting it on someone else.

You could not do this with a personal spell, such as Shield.

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Wands are not Always Available, so you'd need the required amount of Fame, access from a chronicle, or pay 2 PP for a wand of mage armor of caster level 1, which bypasses Fame requirements.

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Tenkinos wrote:
I want to use a wand of mage armor for my Monk so i can still retain my wisdom bonus to AC. I'm still fairly new so i'm unsure exactly how wants work. Do all wands come with 50 uses (like the wand of cure light wounds) or do they vary? Also do i need to have anything speical to use a wand with mage armor charges?

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I want to use a wand of mage armor for my Monk so i can still retain my wisdom bonus to AC. I'm still fairly new so i'm unsure exactly how wants work. Do all wands come with 50 uses (like the wand of cure light wounds) or do they vary?

Smart call with the wand.

They come with 50 charges unless you find a chronicle sheet selling one with fewer charges.

You either need 9 fame around level 3, or you can spend 2 prestige points to get it without needing the fame.

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Also do i need to have anything speical to use a wand with mage armor charges?

As a monk you don't have the spellcasting ability to make a wand work. There's a few ways around that

You can buy a wand and hand it to a party member and ask them to use it on you. Someone in the party should have either the ability to use it (because it's on their class spell list) or a better use magic device score than you do.

Alternately, you can get yourself ranks in use magic device, but that requires a force of personality and most monks...well spend a lot of time alone in contemplation for a reason. The wand will shut off if you or the person you hand it to roll a 1 (unless you have a +19 in umd), so....

You can also buy potions of mage armor, but they're more expensive. What I advise most monks to do is get the wand with prestige points, and buy 4 potions. When you get down to 2 potions, buy 2 more.

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Flutter wrote:
The wand will shut off if you or the person you hand it to roll a 1 (unless you have a +19 in umd), so....

Well, the person who rolled the UMD check can't try to activate again it for 24 hours, but there's nothing stopping you from handing it to someone else for them to give it a shot.

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Jack Brown wrote:
A wand of mate armor, in PFS would have a one hour duration per spell (since it would be a caster level 1 spell, unless you had a better one on a chronicle)

Honestly, I have no idea why anyone would want to mate with their armor.

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MisterSlanky wrote:
Honestly, I have no idea why anyone would want to mate with their armor.

Shackles say sometimes armor only option.

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MisterSlanky wrote:


Honestly, I have no idea why anyone would want to mate with their armor.

After that incident with the gelatinous cube you're not one to judge... :)

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SCPRedMage wrote:
Flutter wrote:
The wand will shut off if you or the person you hand it to roll a 1 (unless you have a +19 in umd), so....
Well, the person who rolled the UMD check can't try to activate again it for 24 hours, but there's nothing stopping you from handing it to someone else for them to give it a shot.

There's a bit of a debate as to how that line's supposed to be interpreted. Some say the wand shuts off completely, some say it shuts off for one person. The rules aren't clear and as far as I know, no official ruling has been made, so expect table variation.

Use Magic Device wrote:

Retry?

Yes, but if you ever roll a natural 1 while attempting to activate an item and you fail, then you can't try to activate that item again for 24 hours.

It's unclear whether the "you" is the singular you and means the person failing to activate it, or plural you, meaning no one can activate it anymore.

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Quentin Coldwater wrote:

It's unclear whether the "you" is the singular you and means the person failing to activate it, or plural you, meaning no one can activate it anymore.

Where in the rules have they ever used the plural "you"? That would be highly irregular formatting.

As far as I am aware all actions refering to "you" solely refers to the person using that action.

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MisterSlanky wrote:
Jack Brown wrote:
A wand of mate armor, in PFS would have a one hour duration per spell (since it would be a caster level 1 spell, unless you had a better one on a chronicle)
Honestly, I have no idea why anyone would want to mate with their armor.

how do you think they get small armor for kender?

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Quentin Coldwater wrote:
It's unclear whether the "you" is the singular you and means the person failing to activate it, or plural you, meaning no one can activate it anymore.

If the intent was for the wand to shut off altogether, there are far simpler ways of saying that, such as, say, "it cannot be activated again for 24 hours". That has the advantage of being clear, and cutting down on the word count.

As dragonhunterq pointed out, the plural "you" is used no where else in the rules. You means you, you does not mean everyone.

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