Making touch attacks ranged

[lastknightleft]

Hi, I'm playing an ecclesiathurge and have a lot of touch attack abilities I'd like to not have to be in melee range to use. So are there magic items that allow me to do so, or if there are feats to help etc. right now I'm just trying to learn all of my options.

[Bob Bob Bob]

Reach metamagic. Or a rod thereof.

[MageHunter]

There's the spell spectral hand. Might just be spells though.

[Blave]

For offensive touch needs, there's also spell storing and conductive reach weapons. A skorpion whip can allow you to deliver touch effects at 15 ft.

[lastknightleft]

Blave wrote:

For offensive touch needs, there's also spell storing and conductive reach weapons. A skorpion whip can allow you to deliver touch effects at 15 ft.

never seen that weapon before, what is it from?

[lastknightleft]

Bob Bob Bob wrote:

Reach metamagic. Or a rod thereof.

That's a good one for spells :D

got any suggestions for abilities?

[Blave]

I think it first appeared the Legacy of Fire Adventure Path, back when Pathfinder APs were still 3.5 campaigns. It has since been added to the official Pathfinder Ruleset and printed in Ultimate Combat and can be found on the PRD.

It's basically a whip that deals lethal damage. Doesn't matter for conductive, as that only requires you to hit the target, but spell storing specifically says your attack must damage the target.

[avr]

Scorpion whip, it's an exotic weapon. Conductive weapons can deliver touch supernatural or spell-like abilities.

[Scott Wilhelm]

Robe of Needles. Guns. Be a Grippli, and take Agile Tongue. Or be a Human, take Racial Heritage, and then take Agile Tongue

I like the Scorching Ray Spell.

Marke Dye Arrows.

[Conjoy]

Blave wrote:

For offensive touch needs, there's also spell storing and conductive reach weapons. A skorpion whip can allow you to deliver touch effects at 15 ft.

I don't see anything in the Scorpion Whip description that mentions a 15 ft range/reach. It is a weapon that can be used as a Whip, but does that give it the Whip range?

[Blave]

Scorpion whip description:
"This whip has a series of razor-sharp blades and fangs inset along its tip."

It's a whip. Having a few bades on the tip doesn't change the basic composition of a whip. Other than dealing lethal damage, it's a whip in every way.

[dragonhunterq]

Blave wrote:

Scorpion whip description:

"This whip has a series of razor-sharp blades and fangs inset along its tip."

It's a whip. Having a few bades on the tip doesn't change the basic composition of a whip. Other than dealing lethal damage, it's a whip in every way.

A scorpion whip does not (normally) have reach.

FAQ: "the scorpion whip is normally a light performance weapon with no other special weapon features". If you want to use a scorpion whip with 15' range you need both scorpion whip and whip proficiency.

[Conjoy]

Ta muchly.

[Blave]

Ok, that was new to me. Still, even a normal whip works for the conductive enchantment. For spells, reach is probably better than spell storing anyway.

[Conjoy]

Again< I may have it wrong, but the description as written in the prd doesn't allow spells to be delivered by Conductive, only Spell-likes and Super-Naturals abilities.

[Blave]

Conjoy wrote:

Again< I may have it wrong, but the description as written in the prd doesn't allow spells to be delivered by Conductive, only Spell-likes and Super-Naturals abilities.

I didn't mean to imply that conductive works for spells. It doesn't.

But unlike spell storing just works with a nomal whip because you only need to hit your target, not damage it.

So I basically meant: If a spell storing scorpion whip is too much of a feat investment to use at range, get a normal conductive whip for your supernatural and spell-like touch attacks. And use reach spell (or spectral hand) for your touch spells.

[Gisher]

The Lunging Spell Touch feat lets you deliver touch attacks from an extra 5' away. It's basically Lunge for touch spells.