So I have been contemplating making a character that adheres to the Prophecies of Kalistrade and seem to be stuck and would love some advice or suggestions. I originally wanted to make a character that eventually becomes the PrC in question, however I am stuck trying to figure out a good class and/or archetype to use as the base or if I just want to scrap the PrC entirely and make some sort of extremely snobby oracle, sorcerer, or wizard (although I am not sure how an oracle would fair since they think themselves secular) or possibly just a Noble Scion that makes everyone do things for him so that he doesn't have to touch people and so that he gets even more wealth than normal. Any suggestions oh mighty advice board?
The reason I have been thinking about this guy is because I have an inquisitor in a Hell's Vengeance campaign that apes the prophecies when he is in the company of others, although most people that know about it would know he is full of s&+! and a total non-believer (although he is still a resident of Druma). Still a fantastic merchant, at least.
I would love to be able to adhere to the principals of the prophecies while acting like a rich, LN bastard. That is to say probably not going monk (even though Scaled Disciple has some amusing synergy with the PrC, especially if you really want to act like a dragon) due to the whole no physical contact when possible thing. I've thought about the rogue but I am not sure how I feel about being one. Frankly I have been having a wee bit of writer's block while thinking up this character and would love to hear suggestions in the hopes of breaking this mental gridlock.
I'm going to second the Oracle idea. There's a new Oracle Curse in Legacy of Dragons, Covetous, which fits the concept perfectly. The curse basically requires you to have as much non-magical shiny things bedazzling your body as you can afford. As for mysteries, I think you could go either metal (temporarily reshape your metal coins to literally beat your enemies to death with your money) or lore (a very cerebral type of mystery which fits the contemplative Kalistradian well).
Forgot about covetous, will have to remember that curse. How about adding the Enlightened Philosopher archetype to him?
Why? Is there some weird exploit around it?
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Excellent, someone may use my oracle curse for the intended purpose! :)
Thursty Sneaks Druma Support Into Unrelated Books, Volume 37
Frankly I'd be surprised if there were more than 15.
Thursty Sneaks Druma Support Into Unrelated Books, Volume 37That's cute, you think there's 37 separate instances of Druma showing up in books. :)
Well, that just goes to show how sneaky it is. ^_^
I think any mystery would make more thematic sense for this character than the time I made a merfolk whose greatest curse is that he is an oracle of the Flame Mystery. Regardless, I think I got a good idea for this guy now. Now just to poke through feats and traits to help me. Although if you all have any more good ideas I am more than willing to hear 'em. At worst I might just slot one into one of the campaigns I am drafting up for whenever I start to GM.
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I was browsing Ratfolk art, and happened upon a fantastic Kalistradian picture.
Utterly fantastic, but I might just stick with a human. Now if this guy was ever allowed the Leadership feat I would ask to make that little f@%@er my protege in a heartbeat.
Oh, the other class that works really well for Kalistradians is Vigilante. Just have a single identity (and occasionally get angry- switch out of social- when you need to be scary), and you can put your social talents towards half-time quadruple-money profession checks with a +4 bonus. (Social Grace, Double Time, In Vogue, Entrepreneur.)
I saw something like that, yes. Also a social talent that involves acting as if you were following the prophecies in order to buy stuff as if you were in a larger settlement. Hell, my character in Hell's Vengeance has a brother that is that vigilante combo. Except for the fact that like my character and his other brother (they are dwarven identical triplets, can't wait till my GM brings mentions them since he said he would kind of put them into the AP somewhere as super non-essential NPCs) they all secretly worship Norgorber and represent different aspects of the cuddly god. One is assassination and murder, one is greed and secrets (my character), and one is all about poisons.
Hm, I must admit after doing some poking around that I find that the Spirit Guide appeals to me as well. I like the idea of my character bargaining with spirits each day in order to gain their powers and access to spells I would otherwise not have (like Life Spirit). There is also the fact that most kalistocrats are atheists, but I do not know if I want to make him one. At most he would be a loose follower of Abadar, believing that making friends within the church and among his more powerful servants would help him significantly in his quest to become richer.
Do you all think I should get a familiar via Eldritch Heritage? I'm a human so I could easily take Focused Study for two extra Skill Focus feats at later levels. Also what do you all think would be a nice "exotic" familiar for him, apparently kalistocrats with familiars tend to favor the exotic because rich people.
Familiars are always nice! Valet archetype lets it keep things magically clean for easier adherence to the rules. Albino peacock or raven is a good choice for kalistocrats aesthetically.
Plus I can make him move to people and touch them with CLW (and other spells of it's ilk) without having to touch them and it can come sprinting back on the same turn if they are close enough. I like it. A pity I don't have Intimidate as a class skill, but if I had a peacock the bonus gained from it combined with my character's 20 Cha (he has Sidestep Secret at level 1 via Lore Mystery, which is the mystery I decided to give him) would make it somewhat irrelevant. Probably would put a point or two in it, but I feel a legitimate business man wouldn't have as much use for intimidation. That's what the hired help is for.
I also plan on taking Spirit Ally at level 9, mostly because a constant Unseen Servant is fantastic flavor for this character (especially since the Str-score of this version increases with my CL up to a 12 Str score).
Plus I can make him move to people and touch them with CLW (and other spells of it's ilk) without having to touch them and it can come sprinting back on the same turn if they are close enough. I like it. A pity I don't have Intimidate as a class skill, but if I had a peacock the bonus gained from it combined with my character's 20 Cha (he has Sidestep Secret at level 1 via Lore Mystery, which is the mystery I decided to give him) would make it somewhat irrelevant. Probably would put a point or two in it, but I feel a legitimate business man wouldn't have as much use for intimidation. That's what the hired help is for.
I also plan on taking Spirit Ally at level 9, mostly because a constant Unseen Servant is fantastic flavor for this character (especially since the Str-score of this version increases with my CL up to a 12 Str score).
The Extremely Fashionable trait might be worth a look for your character, actually.
I've thought about it, but frankly I do not have the room unless I give up the Seeker trait. Currently I have Seeker in order to have perception as a class skill and I have Eye for Quality in order to have appraise as one too. I have thought about taking Cosmopolitan in order to do so, but my feats at the moment are a Skill Focus in Knowledge (local) which I hope would translate well to finding contacts and the like and Noble Scion (because the Noble Scion of War is extremely handy for me since I have 10 Dex).
I think it might be poignant to post what I have so far for my build. What would be the best format to post it in? I don't normally post my builds and am not sure what is the format most people use for these forums.
I use something called Mottokrosh's Eldritch Online Character Sheet. I just remember it as charactersheet.co.uk/pathfinder. I think I have a Mythweaver's account that I could transfer the stuff I have right now.
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Isn't Eye For Quality a Religion trait (for Abadar, specifically)? In the age of d20pfsrd, it's important to double-check these things. :/
You are correct. For a replacement, consider For the Money from Agents of Evil or Merchant from Ultimate Campaign.
I use something called Mottokrosh's Eldritch Online Character Sheet. I just remember it as charactersheet.co.uk/pathfinder. I think I have a Mythweaver's account that I could transfer the stuff I have right now.
Try using the share button and copy the link to the statblock. I think we'll be able to see it.
Apparently while most are athiests they seem to allow members to be followers of other gods, although I am sure it is dissuaded. So I decided I think this guy would follow Abadar, partly to mollify the god of capitalism and his followers.
But yes I know Eye for Quality is an Abadar trait, I saw that it was on the AoN.
Plus I can make him move to people and touch them with CLW (and other spells of it's ilk) without having to touch them and it can come sprinting back on the same turn if they are close enough. I like it. A pity I don't have Intimidate as a class skill, but if I had a peacock the bonus gained from it combined with my character's 20 Cha (he has Sidestep Secret at level 1 via Lore Mystery, which is the mystery I decided to give him) would make it somewhat irrelevant. Probably would put a point or two in it, but I feel a legitimate business man wouldn't have as much use for intimidation. That's what the hired help is for.
I also plan on taking Spirit Ally at level 9, mostly because a constant Unseen Servant is fantastic flavor for this character (especially since the Str-score of this version increases with my CL up to a 12 Str score).
If you don't want Intimidate boosted, go with an albino raven (which can talk) for a bonus to Appraise. Good fit for Valet- constantly sneaking off to go eat forbidden carrion meats and cleaning up after itself before returning.
Lol. I love it. A smarmy little thing that does what it's told but loves to find loopholes while doing so and generally annoy me while simultaneously mollifying me at every turn and making sure it is useful enough that I can't get rid of it without unneeded hassle.
And here is my character's Mythweaver sheet. Arasmes Goldfinger.
Well it does still effect my CMD at this point. Not a huge thing, mind you, but it also still effects some of my skills and I don't want him to be too clumsy until he can use other means of transportation.
After a busy week I have returned and I have a rather important question, what exactly would this guy's motives be to go adventuring? Does he believe being an adventurer might lead him to accumulation of enough capital in order to pursue other business or is he doing this because he is down on his luck and is desperate for a cash infusion?
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After a busy week I have returned and I have a rather important question, what exactly would this guy's motives be to go adventuring? Does he believe being an adventurer might lead him to accumulation of enough capital in order to pursue other business or is he doing this because he is down on his luck and is desperate for a cash infusion?
Might not even consider it "adventuring". He could easily just consider it aggressive marketing, trade route building, and reclaiming lost wealth... With a bit of competition removal as an added bonus. lol