How to make a Sanctified Slayer powerful?[pfs]


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I want to play a human Sanctified Slayer with animal companion,which make me flanking.But my guys told me my build is bad on defense and damage per hit is not good.How can i boost my build up?
Here is my build
class:Sanctified Slayer8
race:human
Str:18(+2race)
Dex:12
Con:12
Wis:16(+1 lv up)
Int:14(+1 lv up)
Cha:7

Domain:Destruction(Rage Subdomain)
Feat:
1:Nature Soul,Combat Expertise
3:PA,Shake it off—>Pack Flanking
5:Animal Allay
6:Outflank
7:Good noon
8:Ranger Combat Style-TWF
9:Extra Slayer talent:Ranger Combat Style-Improve TWF,Look out


This is a totally different concept but I'm playing a Dex based sanctified slayer with the crocodile domain and repeated selection of the accomplished sneak attacker feat. If you take ASA twice over your career with this domain you'll get rogue level sneak dice, although a STR build like yours would probably be better for this because you do more damage and don't have to deal with weapon finesse.

This would work well with an animal companion, especially if you tale a less feat intensive fighting style Luke two hander.


@Zolanoteph

I don't think you can take ASA twice. If you are able to benefit from a feat twice it would say so in its description.

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@Nerio N

The problems you're facing is that you're spreading your feats a bit thin and going STR-based without Heavy Armor proficiency.

You'll probably be better off going UNrogue3/Sanctified Slayer5 for extra SA dice, and dex to hit/dmg.

Or at least take the animal domain so that you won't need two use two feats for getting your Animal Companion.

And this character is starting at level 8, correct?

Dark Archive

Instead of going sanctified slayer, you could take Sacred Huntsman. This'll give you an animal companion, plus it'll share your teamwork feats. You even get the hunter's animal focus ability.
Then you can throw your regular feats into more offensive options.


@Zolanoteph
Thanks a lot.Your idea inspire me but i don't know whether ASA feat can be taken more than once.i can't find the description about this.

@Wonderstell
Hmm...In fact this character is starting at lv2 because it's a pfs character.The build is what my character plan to be.
I'm going to take the animal domain before I notice taking two feat for AC with the rage subdomain is mostly equal to taking two feat for the rage subdomain with the animal domain.And two feat for the rage subdomain is a pretty good deal,isn't it?
If i take the animal domain to get 3 free feat,what feat should i take?i'm absolutely new at pf so i want some advice on it.Thanks a lot.
P.S Does AC archetype Bodyguard useful for my build?


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Nothing in the ASA feat text says it can be taken more than once.


@Ectar Thanks a lot.Is there any advice for feat on offensive option?


Klorox wrote:
Nothing in the ASA feat text says it can be taken more than once.

This is a waking nightmare. I had so many build ideas around spamming this. Is there a rule ststing that unless specifically stated otherwise feats can't be taken multiple times?


Zolanoteph wrote:
Klorox wrote:
Nothing in the ASA feat text says it can be taken more than once.
This is a waking nightmare. I had so many build ideas around spamming this. Is there a rule ststing that unless specifically stated otherwise feats can't be taken multiple times?

Yes,


Zolanoteph wrote:
Klorox wrote:
Nothing in the ASA feat text says it can be taken more than once.
This is a waking nightmare. I had so many build ideas around spamming this. Is there a rule ststing that unless specifically stated otherwise feats can't be taken multiple times?

Yes. (Well, kind of. You could take the feat more than once, I guess, but the benefit is specifically prohibited from stacking.)

From the CRB section on Feats, under the heading Feat Descriptions, bold item Benefit:

"What the feat enables the character ("you" in the feat description) to do. If a character has the same feat more than once, its benefits do not stack unless indicated otherwise in the description."

Examples of times where allowances are made in the Feat for taking a feat more than once:

From Weapon Focus:

"Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new type of weapon."

From Expanded Arcana:

"Special: You can only take this feat if you possess levels in a class whose spellcasting relies on a limited list of spells known, such as the bard, oracle, and sorcerer.
You can gain Expanded Arcana multiple times."


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Crocodile domain does grants an animal companion. It also grants extra sneak attack at 6th I think?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/archetypes/paizo---druid -archetypes/animal-and-terrain-domains/crocodile-domain

An okay build:
Sanctified slayer (Inquisitor) gains Sneak Attk by 4 (1d6, then 1d6 per 3 lv, 7th, 10th, etc), taking Crocodile domain gain sneak attack by 6 (1d6). VMC Rogue adds +1d6 at 7.

That means (2d6+1d6+1d6)=4d6 (no need for Accomplished sneak attacker yet).

BAB of +5, sneak attk 4d6 is pretty good though, plus you have inquisitor magic to fall back on, as well as Studied target which by 7th is now move or swift action and 2 targets maintained at a time.

You can keep level Sanctified Slayer or dip a level at 8th if I took Snakebite Striker brawler for 5d6 sneak attk (better than a rogue for 1 level).
But after that dip, really helps to level Sanctified Slayer.

At character level 10/11, you get +1d6 sneak attack also. So 7d6 sneak attack at 11th. So you are still as good as a straight leveled rogue.

Dark Archive

I don't think it is written anywhere that "feats can only be written once unless specified otherwise", but numerous feats have the special text of "This feat can be taken more than once....[some explanation of how having this feat multiple times grants different benefits or some such]"
Accomplished sneak attacker does not, so I think we can safely infer that it can only be taken once.


@Starbuck_II Thanks a lot.Crocodile domain seems to grants no AC but familiar. Is there something translate familiar to AC?And it`s a pfs character,so VMC is illegal source.Without playing sneak attack character before,I don`t know whether flanking enemies by familiar is a good idea.Is there another way to make sneak attack?I want AC totally for flanking enemies to make sneak attack.


Here's an example feat order for a str-based inquisitor with (kinda) 3d6 SA at lv 7.

Sacred Huntsmaster, Crocodile Domain Valet Familiar

1. Power Attack, Toughness

3. Combat Expertise, Pack Flanking(B)

5. Precise Strike (+1d6 dmg when flanking)

6. Outflank(B), SA +1d6 from Crocodile Domain

7. Accomplished Sneak Attacker

9. Shake it Off (+2 to all saves), Improved Spell Sharing(B)

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Here's an example feat order for a dex-based inquisitor with (kinda) 3d6 SA at lv 7. (Switch out your STR and DEX stat from your original Stat array)

Sacred Huntsmaster, Crocodile Domain Emissary Familiar

1. Weapon Finesse, TWF

3. Combat Expertise, Pack Flanking(B)

5. Precise Strike (+1d6 dmg when flanking)

6. Outflank(B), SA +1d6 from Crocodile Domain

7. Accomplished Sneak Attacker

9. Improved TWF, Improved Spell Sharing(B)

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I recommend the Dex-based one, since you'll have higher AC and reflex save with it. You'll also be able to take TWF which is more valuable for you since you'll want to get in as many attacks as possible with Bane and the +3d6 of precision damage you'll have at lv 7.

Dark Archive

If you go the sacred huntsman or hunter route, you could take precise strike as a teamwork feat. Gives both the player and animal companion a 1d6 sneak attack.
Plus if you opt to go hunter, you can grab outflank as a bonus feat at second level, which is well before anyone else can get it. Plus, you grant that feat to your companion as well.


If you go dex based sanctified slayer eith the crocodile domain your issues should easily be resolved. You always have the buff spells on your spell list to help too.

I done a quick rundown of damage for a dex based sanctified slayer and I was getting something near 30 points of damage per hit at your level and that was using double bane,which is considered mediocre.

Honestly, the damage potential of your character seems fine to me with a little tweaking. As an inquisitor you arent meant to be the best at damage, your more versatile than that

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