So in HALLOWED NECROMANCER it gets positive touch, which lets it cast cure spells but only to harm undead.
in it it says,
A number of times per day equal to 3 + her Intelligence modifier, when
she spontaneously casts a cure spell, she can either turn the
effect into a ray and increase the range to close or remove
the Will save but deal half the normal amount of damage
Saving Throw Will half
So is this really saying that 3+int I can choose to have enemies auto-succeed their will save?
EDIT:
In the HAUNT COLLECTOR Occultists, can it select the same spirit multiple times? and if so, do the seance bonuses stack?
So in HALLOWED NECROMANCER it gets positive touch, which lets it cast cure spells but only to harm undead.
in it it says,
A number of times per day equal to 3 + her Intelligence modifier, when
she spontaneously casts a cure spell, she can either turn the
effect into a ray and increase the range to close or remove
the Will save but deal half the normal amount of damageSaving Throw Will halfSo is this really saying that 3+int I can choose to have enemies auto-succeed their will save?
Well, to be pedantic, there is no will save per the ability. You simply automatically do half damage. If it helps you reason through it by just reading the spell and assuming they save, the result is the same.
yeah I know the "technically", It's just that, WHY does this exist? Why make an option where I can spend my pool to be worse at something?
To answer that, I'd need more detail. I don't have Horror Adventures yet. What is Hallowed Necromancer an archetype of? Like, is it a class that doesn't normally let you cast CLW or is that spell enabled further to do other things by the archetype?
I agree more information would be needed. But it seems to say the class already can spontaneously use cure spells. If that is the case then half of this ability is a prone shooter.
It's a wizard archetype. It can spontaneously cast cure spells, but only to harm undead, it cannot heal living.
It's a wizard archetype. It can spontaneously cast cure spells, but only to harm undead, it cannot heal living.
The Raven Black's explanation seems to make most sense, then.
It's a wizard archetype. It can spontaneously cast cure spells, but only to harm undead, it cannot heal living.The Raven Black's explanation seems to make most sense, then.
The author mistakenly believing inflict/cure spells are Will negates is what makes most sense to me.
I made a potential errata thread to compile issues for future FAQ treatment and 2nd printing corrections. I included this one.
The author mistakenly believing inflict/cure spells are Will negates is what makes most sense to me.
I made a potential errata thread to compile issues for future FAQ treatment and 2nd printing corrections. I included this one.
If that's the case, I'd wonder what the point of the ability is at all. It's clearly a "regardless of defenses, you do something to the target" ability.
Like I said, I think the point was intended to be that you could guarantee at least half damage, because the author mistakenly thought these spells were will negates. In his/her mind this ability did do something, because of a misunderstanding of the default rule.
It'd be nice if the author could chime in and say that that's what he thought so we know it was just a mistake.
Are you missing the change to close range as a ray, that you must make an attack roll?
No one is missing that. The options are (1) ranged touch attack (and regular save Will half) or (2) touch attack but with a guarantee of half damage, no save is rolled. The problem is that (2) is a negative, you are always guaranteed half damage if you hit, so why give up the save and the possibility of full damage?
Well, several things may have stalwart or a similar ability to fully negate the effects of a will save. There is also the fact that as a ray, you can crit and get double damange.
I agree that on the planet of Golarion several things may have stalwart.
You can crit with any spell that uses an attack roll.
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No one is arguing that the ray is bad. That does something, makes it ranged instead of touch. That's cool. The, no save to do damage as if they saved part is what's... odd.