Corsario's Kingmakers: Agents of the Kingdom Discussion

[Axhammer Rocknose]

Yes he will.

What you wrote, and tried to get across is not what you seem to have tried to get across.

[Corsario]

Maybe... what did I wrote wrong?

[Galahad0430]

Using Beckett as an example is probably bad as in that case Beckett was the one who came out looking good and the King looked exceedingly bad.

[Corsario]

Beckett?

[Aolis Greenborn]

I would appreciate it if no one other then myself and the DM play my PC or give them actions. If I do not post my PC taking an action or in this case making an expression then it did not occur. Personally I find it to be bad form and a little rude to the person whose PC you high jacked even in a limited manner.

I take it to be an honest mistake but ignoring it will only encourage it. So please be mindful in the future as I am mindful not to intrude on other PCs.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

The aftereffects are immaterial; the point is the supreme annoyance Thomas Becket was being, the king's statement, and how it was taken. It HAS to have happened at some point in Golarion's history, y'know? And it's happened fairly frequently - with that as the intent - in RL history. The main reason Becket's killing was so uproarious was that it took place while he was celebrating Mass.

And for Aolis, I'll believe all your emotions are being completely hidden when I see a Bluff check that shows you capable of keeping all your emotions off your face.

[Aolis Greenborn]

So I need to make a bluff check on an emotion that you think my PC is having? Sorry but no, I control my PC. That includes emotions he may or may not have as well as his actions.

Your opinion of his motives, actions, or emotions are just that. Your opinion, they are not fact.

[Axhammer Rocknose]

It's called God modding and is the absolute height of disrespect he can give

He controls no characters other than his own and yet is still telling others what the are doing

[Corsario]

Easy boys... play nice.

And yes, no Sense Motive for other characters unless those other characters post it in spoiler.

And remember, you are not each other enemy here. If you feel like going PvP, I will have to ask you to find another game.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Yessir.

[Aolis Greenborn]

Auto correct, fat finger error, and such may change the word. I take it "pretend" was supposed to be "intend".

[Corsario]

More like "in Spanish don't mean deception"

[Merus Lebeda]

Btw, the modern military jargon (much of which wouldn't even exist as they are based on modern tech) really detracts from the medieval fantasy setting...

[Axhammer Rocknose]

I get enough of it from work, its hard to escape when it follows me here

[Lord Christian D'Elagante]

Sorry that you feel that way. This is the way I created the characters to be. I will try to tone it done for you but I feel that would take away from the charactes. If you feel that strongly about the military aspect of my character this would be a perfect time to speak up as I can kill the characters off and move on to another game. No harm no foul. I am not offended in the least.

[Corsario]

Maybe you can "invent" your own jargon instead of using the "Modern USA" one.

[Amavin Zephyra]

I watch Lord of the Rings for my fantasy military jargon

[Aolis Greenborn]

I am no expert on history but I am sure their are more medieval military type jargon you can use instead. Pretty sure the roman's/greek's should have something to that effect, what with their love of organization and ranks. Maybe try to look that up and replace it accordingly.

Truthfully I kinda gloss over it sense I don't have a clue what any of it means. >.<

[Axhammer Rocknose]

Actaully Using the Roman or Greek Jargon would fit alot better for golorian purposes.
I simply hear military jargon all day long when I am working, no offense was meant by my statment.

[Merus Lebeda]

Lord Christian D'Elagante wrote:

Sorry that you feel that way. This is the way I created the characters to be. I will try to tone it done for you but I feel that would take away from the charactes. If you feel that strongly about the military aspect of my character this would be a perfect time to speak up as I can kill the characters off and move on to another game. No harm no foul. I am not offended in the least.

The problem isn't him being a military character, the issue is the completely modern (and thus out of character) jargon. Things like the phonetic alphabet only exist because of radio. Other terms like "exfil" also are modern inventions. There is plenty of medieval military jargon to use...

That being said, you can do as you like, I was just pointing out how jarring it is to the "mien" of the game as it is so anachronistic.

[Aolis Greenborn]

Sorry that I suddenly slowed down. I got flooded by work out of the blue. Including weekends apparently.

[Alexander Burfoot]

My unit is getting deployed AS I am doing the paper work to go Inactive Gotta love the military

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Alexander Burfoot wrote:

Moving a small armed force to horseback, and then onwards to his father is going to with hustleing, and forced march, little under 12 Minuets, moving at 250 ft per 6 seconds, you travel 3 miles in 380. In 6 Minuets time the full army is going to be there in 6 minuets and 6 seconds. This is RUNNING the entire way there.

Just as an FYI, you'd have to make CON tests for the Running past their CON in rounds; if you can make the cumulative +1 to DC every round, sure. As per the previous conversation about distances - when Aolis asked us to check his math:

OOC Discussion wrote:

(50' and Run x5) would cut the time down to 63.36 rounds, or 6 minutes 20 seconds, if the critter could handle Con checks of up to DC 54 - still unlikely. However, as Run does not modify Hustle speed (and 'Running then resting', by the rules, works out to a hustle) it's still gonna be ... at standard hustle speed for a 50' movement critter (10 miles/hr), 3 miles in 18 minutes.

So unless you can magic it otherwise, which I wouldn't count you out on ... pretty much still going to be 18 minutes after leaving the camp.

[Corsario]

Have to say a couple minutes don't matter. The cohorts reach the place the pavilion was, and can investigate, and start dealing with the event consequences.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Sure, sorry. Just meant to point out what'd been figured out before. :P

[GM Grog]

The Wyrm Ouroboros wrote:

Alexander Burfoot wrote:

Moving a small armed force to horseback, and then onwards to his father is going to with hustleing, and forced march, little under 12 Minuets, moving at 250 ft per 6 seconds, you travel 3 miles in 380. In 6 Minuets time the full army is going to be there in 6 minuets and 6 seconds. This is RUNNING the entire way there.

Just as an FYI, you'd have to make CON tests for the Running past their CON in rounds; if you can make the cumulative +1 to DC every round, sure. As per the previous conversation about distances - when Aolis asked us to check his math:

OOC Discussion wrote:

(50' and Run x5) would cut the time down to 63.36 rounds, or 6 minutes 20 seconds, if the critter could handle Con checks of up to DC 54 - still unlikely. However, as Run does not modify Hustle speed (and 'Running then resting', by the rules, works out to a hustle) it's still gonna be ... at standard hustle speed for a 50' movement critter (10 miles/hr), 3 miles in 18 minutes.

So unless you can magic it otherwise, which I wouldn't count you out on ... pretty much still going to be 18 minutes after leaving the camp.

There is a spell that allows you to not make force march checks, I will find it for you if you would like to see it, its normally a very....not worthless but pretty niche spell, but it would come in handy for armies.

[GM Grog]

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/m/marching-chant

Lowlevel cleric spell, there is a higher spell but I don't know its name that affects more targets, but at the moment its name escapes me.

[Axhammer Rocknose]

I am currently working out the Damage numbers with the GM, I think we are on hold till that gets worked out.

[Porablum Flapzit]

Damage numbers? From what?

[Axhammer Rocknose]

Amavin popping up into the group when shes supposed to be off with the other Main Characters.

SO she just pops up from no where in the blink of an eye, DM where is she before I post the damage.

[Axhammer Rocknose]

DC 0 SENSE MOTIVE CHECK
All characters present including the Queen/Princess whoever she is can sense the following
1: Axhammer is not trying to harm or, or let harm befall her.

DC 1 Sense motive check
1: In his attempt to prevent the princess from being sword-wedded by any present he is taking her under his charge until such time as her safety can be assured.

DC 2 sense motive check
1: He is uneasy, as anyone with detect chaos and or a link to the divine can tell
2: He was spoken too or shown a sign by his god. might be knowledge religion

DC 3 Sense Motive
1: HES NOT TRYING TO BECOME KING OR TAKE OVER ANY COUNTRY
2: I will repeat for those of you too stubborn, He...IS...NOOT..TRYING.TO...TAKE OVER...A COUNTRY

[GM Grog]

ALSO, can we keep the meta gaming down a notch, maybe stop it all together?

Amavin isn't even there, so we should disregard whatever was said there.

[Axhammer Rocknose]

Jarsella you have not left with the queen, PLEASE stop disregarding my post.

[Jasrella Domas]

1 the queen is already out of the area. She was moved away by those that are loyal to her and her father. If you try to take control of the situation like by forcing yourself in as her protector. ...that might be thought of as forcing your views of law and order on her and that might bring the group to blows ...she is not to far away but I am under the impression that axe nose had his say and then she was moved by hareth..

2 amavin is not here she is with the rest of the higher level party. I think it was just her cohort speaking under amavin avatar.
Jesrella Did not leave with the queen...read my post as well...

[Axhammer Rocknose]

I don't actually see where the GM wrote that she rode away?

[Ishana Tamanna]

Don't be a douche Axhammer it's a 2AM post and I forgot to switch the alias before sleeping (it automatically defaults to Amavin). You can notice that the post itself is largely just Ishana talking to you. Man, I have never met a PC let alone a Paladin that's trying so hard for PvP damage against his CG teammate.

[Axhammer Rocknose]

Insulting the paladin repeated does that, makes one defensive, and closes the mind to those that could have been allies if but an open hand had been offered.

[Ishana Tamanna]

Pretty sure you considered that the "king" insulted you as well earlier. Were you planning on attacking him as well? Still, Ishana's "repeated insults" to the Paladin are, I think, limited to "I'm disappointed in you". Amavin's single insult to you, IC, was referring to your antics at the secret meeting as being childish, because in her opinion, he was. If Axhammer attacks everyone that thinks less of him as a result of his actions, one wonders how he has managed to stay a Paladin for so long lol.

[Corsario]

Just to clear things up, unless somebody actively impedes it, Rade Surtova will go with Hareth and Porablum back to camp. They are the two characters she trust more at the moment. Specially Porablum.

[Galahad0430]

I'm just glad Stefan is in the town so he doesn't have to watch the drama :)

[Corsario]

But the drama is coming for him :P

[Alysandra Janus]

Steven Tomato!!

*eyes Marching Chant* Combine a pikestaff (or multiple ones) that does that, along with a lord's banner of swiftness flying from it ... horses have 50' move, so 10 miles per hour to be hustling but 'earning' only walking fatigue ... then the LBoS allowing them to march for well over 8 hours in a day ... and you have an army that can go from one end of a kingdom to the other overnight AND fight a battle at the end of the march.

[Porablum Flapzit]

Weren't Merus and Stefan supposed to be joined to the Coursers camp?

[Corsario]

Yes, don't don't worry about it, it is the same.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

They visited it, but I think this is their home-town, so I doubt they actually JOINED it.

[Porablum Flapzit]

Huh, I thought Christian had asked them to actually join it. Ah, well, my mistake.

Letting Alysandra handle this one.

Or Rade, who might be the better option.

[Galahad0430]

Stefan is in Restov doing subversive things :) And yes they had more or less joined with Christian's group.

[Corsario]

Stefan Tomanescu hears, and sees, the explosion at dawn.
What does he do?
Go to the crater? Stays at Restov?

[GM Grog]

Axhammer is still at the crater?

[Corsario]

Yes, doing some planning.