is there a way to get your eyesight back?


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with out using healing magic

is there a feat that would allow you to see through your familiar companion or eidolon's eyes?

or a magical item or wonderous item?

or something that will allow you to use transplanted eyes or construct eyes.

i am just wondering.

with out divine healing magic can one regain their eye sight.


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Depends on how they lost their eyesight.


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Well not completely but current research into non-magic bionic eyes is quite promising. It's not 20/20 by any means but the ability to distinguish even the shadows of shapes can do wonders for independence and quality of life for the blind.

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-35220615?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=webs ite&utm_content=link


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Remove Blindness / Deafness is on the Witch and Alchemist list, neither of which are divine.

Technology guide has Cybernetic Eyes although they don't explicitly cure blindness.

Almost any (Scrying) Spell

Scrying wrote:
Scrying: a scrying spell creates an invisible magical sensor that sends you information. Unless noted otherwise, the sensor has the same powers of sensory acuity that you possess. This level of acuity includes any spells or effects that target you, but not spells or effects that emanate from you. The sensor, however, is treated as a separate, independent sensory organ of yours, and thus functions normally even if you have been blinded or deafened, or otherwise suffered sensory impairment.


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Summoners can see through their eidolons for a limited number of minutes per day.

Scarab Sages

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Based on the wording, the Clouded Vision curse for Oracle grants non-eye dependent Darkvision out to 60ft.


lets just say that the fighter in question had his eyes gouged out and eaten like juju beans along with his eyelids and he some how escaped and wandered long enough for his eye hole to heal enough that "healing or divine" magic would not work. so he has to find another way to get his eye sight back to save his little dog from the wicked witch "curse you flying monkeysSS!!!!" or something

is there a magical head wrap that allows a person to see? or a magical seeing eye dog collar? i know of the feats but there is a lot of them.


There are rules for clockwork and necrocraft bodyparts but nothing specific for eyes. since these replacements apparently grant either equal to or close to equal to function one would assume they magically respond to nerve singles and such which would lead me to assume an eye made through either of these options would be just as feasible.

Scarab Sages

This is complete crap from a rules perspective, there is no time limit on remove blindness. That said, hosuerules are house rules.

There is an item called the swordmaster's blindfold that will give blindsight at melee range, so 5-15 feet depending on if you carry a whip.


a nice beholder could help you?


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And I would think that a Miracle or Limited Wish would still work even if the character was blinded by some hypothetical condition that could not be cured by Remove Blindness/Deafness.

And Cybernetic Eyes specifically do replace the original eyes, so that method should work too.


zainale wrote:

lets just say that the fighter in question had his eyes gouged out and eaten like juju beans along with his eyelids and he some how escaped and wandered long enough for his eye hole to heal enough that "healing or divine" magic would not work. so he has to find another way to get his eye sight back to save his little dog from the wicked witch "curse you flying monkeysSS!!!!" or something

is there a magical head wrap that allows a person to see? or a magical seeing eye dog collar? i know of the feats but there is a lot of them.

Regenerate has no time limit.

Liberty's Edge

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/coreRulebook/spells/regenerate.html#rege nerate

Quote:
The subject's severed body members (fingers, toes, hands, feet, arms, legs, tails, or even heads of multi-headed creatures), broken bones, and ruined organs grow back.

7th level Cleric spell (also 7th level Witch and Shaman)

If you happen by a metropolis as per the lodging and services rules http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateEquipment/gear/lodgingAndService s.html

Quote:
Not every town or village has a spellcaster of sufficient level to cast any spell. In general, you must travel to a small town (or larger settlement) to be reasonably assured of finding a spellcaster capable of casting 1st-level spells, a large town for 2nd-level spells, a small city for 3rd- or 4th-level spells, a large city for 5th- or 6th-level spells, and a metropolis for 7th- or 8th-level spells. Even a metropolis isn't guaranteed to have a local spellcaster able to cast 9th-level spells.

It would cost 910gp for a cast of Regenerate. Level 13 is the minimum level for a level 7 Cleric spell, so 7x13x10 is 910.

And if your GM is going to toss something like that at a player, he HAS to provide the opportunity for a workaround or a way to heal it. Maybe a high level cleric happens to be in a town you pass through for a few days. If he doesn't, your GM is being a t#@# and unfairly punishing the players.


>.> wow just wow ask for something but with restrictions and people throw fits. i know i could just play a Blinded Blade Style character but you need 6 feats to finish the line and until you do might have issues or something. and getting construct/necrocraft might be end game. i guess i will look through all magic items i just thought i would check with the hive mind first.


zainale wrote:
>.> wow just wow ask for something but with restrictions and people throw fits. i know i could just play a Blinded Blade Style character but you need 6 feats to finish the line and until you do might have issues or something. and getting construct/necrocraft might be end game. i guess i will look through all magic items i just thought i would check with the hive mind first.

That's cuz from the way you phrased your questions, it sounded like your character got screwed over and you're trying to recover and LITTLE TO NO CONTEXT that it was something you wanted.

With blinded blade style, you could get it all with 3-4 levels if you start off with master of many styles or unarmed fighter or whatever else class/archetype that'll grant a style feat while ignoring the prereqs.


zainale wrote:

with out using healing magic

is there a feat that would allow you to see through your familiar companion or eidolon's eyes?
or a magical item or wonderous item?
or something that will allow you to use transplanted eyes or construct eyes.
i am just wondering.
with out divine healing magic can one regain their eye sight.

Homunculus

Telepathic Link (Su) wrote:
A homunculus cannot speak, but the process of creating one links it telepathically with its creator. A homunculus knows what its master knows and can convey to him or her everything it sees and hears, out to a distance of 1,500 feet.

Buy=Price 2,050 gp

Build=Craft Construct, arcane eye, mirror image, mending; Skill Craft (leather) or Craft (sculptures) DC 12; Cost 1,050 gp.

/cevah

Scarab Sages

According to the pathfinder tales there is a zon kuthon nidalese magic item that COULD replace sight, but whether its an in game magic item I have no idea.


zainale wrote:
>.> wow just wow ask for something but with restrictions and people throw fits. i know i could just play a Blinded Blade Style character but you need 6 feats to finish the line and until you do might have issues or something. and getting construct/necrocraft might be end game. i guess i will look through all magic items i just thought i would check with the hive mind first.

Next time ask the question you want to ask instead of beating around the bush.

"Is there any way to restore your eyesight" is different from "I want to build a character who lost their eyes and doesn't get them back, how do I make them viable to play?"


Cevah wrote:
zainale wrote:

with out using healing magic

is there a feat that would allow you to see through your familiar companion or eidolon's eyes?
or a magical item or wonderous item?
or something that will allow you to use transplanted eyes or construct eyes.
i am just wondering.
with out divine healing magic can one regain their eye sight.

Homunculus

Telepathic Link (Su) wrote:
A homunculus cannot speak, but the process of creating one links it telepathically with its creator. A homunculus knows what its master knows and can convey to him or her everything it sees and hears, out to a distance of 1,500 feet.

Buy=Price 2,050 gp

Build=Craft Construct, arcane eye, mirror image, mending; Skill Craft (leather) or Craft (sculptures) DC 12; Cost 1,050 gp.

/cevah

thanks cevah!


did anyone read my original post?

is there a way to get your eyesight back? with out using healing magic? this has nothing to do with my DM. i just wanted to know if there is a way to gain a semblance of sight with out using the power of healing or the use of higher beings that fancy themselves gods.

thank you as well burkojames, i will check around and see if this zon kuthon nidalese magic item is a possibility.


The Surgeon Robot (check Archives of Nethys) can surgically restore sight.


Here are some more entries:
Arachnid Goggles: When wearing these goggles, the wearer uses all the crystals as eyes, gaining all-around vision. [15,000 gp]
Eyes of the Dragon: These tigereye gems fit over and then meld into the eyes, transforming the wearer’s eyes into something slitted and draconic. These eyes grant the wearer darkvision 120 ft. and blindsense 60 ft. The wearer sees four times as well as a human in dim light and twice as well in normal light. [110,000 gp]
Robe of Eyes: This valuable garment appears to be a normal robe until it is put on. Its wearer is able to see in all directions at the same moment due to scores of visible, magical eye-like patterns that adorn the robe. She also gains 120-foot darkvision. [120,000 gp]
Veiled Eye: This banded agate attaches itself to its wearer’s forehead and then, blinking and focusing, begins to act as an additional eye. ... However, should his original eyes stop working, whether because of the wearer becoming blinded or even his own decision to close them, he can see through the veiled eye instead. [12,000 gp]
Vudran Ashak Helmet: The helm allows the wearer to see in every direction, granting him immunity to being flanked, as well as granting a +4 enhancement bonus on all vision-based Perception checks. [22,000 gp]
Eyeball Jar [PFS S5-14]: As long as the jar contains at least three eyeballs, the eyeball jar grants its wielder all-around vision. [8,000 gp]

/cevah


Nope.

Contingency + Blindness/Deafness, every day via scrying.

Contingency set to you getting your eyesight back.

That's what you get for calling my gnome smelly.


who called your fragrant gnome smelly? >;(


zainale wrote:
who called your fragrant gnome smelly? >;(

I don't know, but if you'd kindly tell me their location and bring me something belonging to them, I won't remember the fact that you mentioned my gnome and smelliness in the same sentence.


down Malbary lane. and here is a lolipop they dropped.

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That's a tough one. Of course, back in 3.5 days, you could just hope to come across a dried-up old lich eyeball and jam it into one of your empty sockets...

...sucker.


ewww! really a lich's lost eyeball.....


i can't get the image of a lich kneeling down searching for his eyes like a pair of lost glasses.


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Vecna'd be glad to lend you an eye


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He would also be willing to give you a hand.

/cevah


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If he is feeling really nice, you might even be able to get ahead.

Then again, maybe not.


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Imbicatus wrote:

This is complete crap from a rules perspective, there is no time limit on remove blindness. That said, hosuerules are house rules.

There is an item called the swordmaster's blindfold that will give blindsight at melee range, so 5-15 feet depending on if you carry a whip.

Problem is his condition isn't just blindness... it's lack of a body part, and the Remove Blindness spell isn't Regenerate.


zainale wrote:

lets just say that the fighter in question had his eyes gouged out and eaten like juju beans along with his eyelids and he some how escaped and wandered long enough for his eye hole to heal enough that "healing or divine" magic would not work. so he has to find another way to get his eye sight back to save his little dog from the wicked witch "curse you flying monkeysSS!!!!" or something

is there a magical head wrap that allows a person to see? or a magical seeing eye dog collar? i know of the feats but there is a lot of them.

Demon Senses may work, depending on the DM.

Most grafts require the original body part to be removed first. Demon Senses do not have this as an explicit requirement.

You are most certainly not relying on the powers of the gods :P

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