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Varian Jeggare has been drawn with an outfit that probally would fit in many countries. Sophisticated Pathfinder who is often traveling around the Inner Sea.
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What about a nobleman's outfit, just described as a tailored suit, otherwise the glamered ability on armor makes it look like whatever the hell you want it to. :-)
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Well, if you are going to regard armor as a 'thing' with your character's appearance: chainshirt, with protective layer on top and below (mostly so it doesn't mess with other layers; layer below because... hell, have you ever seen the runners that DONT wear band aids during a marathon? Salt encrusted shirts on sensitive chest areas... I can't even imagine the billow pad that is chainmail), and then the tailor suit's jacket on to.
Maybe give the chain shirt a low cut neck so you could wear the white under shirt and collar without anything sticking out.
General point- chain mail is close enough to cloth (at least compared to plate armor) that you could play it you would a hidden bullet proof vest. Maybe do a disguise check for style.
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I'd suggest maybe ceremonial silken armour, possibly, just in case. I'd lean away from chainmail, as while it's clothlike, it's still pretty heavy and noticable. This stuff is not for casual wearing around town.
As far as civvie clothes, in-game I'd use courtier and noble outfits to represent them, with eventual investment in the sleeves of many garments. Glammered armour is nice and something my barbarian's looking forward to for the classic battle ballgown look but may not be as good an investment as you're wanting.
For how they look? Um ... good luck there. As a rough guess, for wherever you're adventuring, find out roughly what it's based on and use that as a guideline. Not too bad for Taldor or Ustalav, although now I'd love to see how Segada's aristocracy would be described in-game ...
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The thing closest to a tailored suit in appearance that would be likely to appear in Golarion--as noted, heavily dependent on the region--would probably be something like this.
Check out 17th-18th century Western European fashions in general.* If he's a grifter, he'd want to look respectable so no one suspects him of being up to something. (Also means he'd have a LOT of outfits to blend into a variety of different environments/take on a variety of roles.)
And if he actually does want armor underneath, glamered would probably be the way to go. Possibly a mithril shirt so it's lighter and easier to move in.
EDIT: Assuming you're somewhere or from somewhere that's either Chelish or Taldan; it'll depend where exactly you are.
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It always seemed funny to me, that in a magic rich environment, that the upper class would not incorporate magic into clothing. Light, fire, smoke, shadows, would all be great affects on clothing.
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As for looking too "nobleman", keep in mind that they WERE the businessmen. What I'ld peg as the modern day tailored business suit would likely be the Courtier's Outfit, which is only a half-step away from being the nobleman's outfit.I keep forgetting that that was what nobles did in that sort of time period.
Well, that depends on the country/region. In someplace like Venice, absolutely. In, for example, England up until about the late 19th-early 20th century, noble wealth was primarily derived from land ownership, and being "in trade" was considered too vulgar for a noble occupation. (While the wealth of nobility still comes from those sources, there's now less of a stigma against actually having a job in addition, though it does still exist.) There were a limited number of actual occupations you could have if you were nobility--at least, if you wanted to maintain your station.
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For Council of Thieves, in the main social event of the path, you're actually expected to be in armor for *cough* reasons. It usually splits the more active combat pretty neatly, so you can have your normal clothes on the days you're not going off to fight things.
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I'd actually forgotten about Italian nobility being like that - and I only learnt that from Assassin's Creed 2 (Ezio's family was both nobility and bankers). Think I read something about English nobility and their stigma against work a while back (and it would explain the attitudes that turned up in Hustle when one of the characters was posing as nobility or they were ripping a nobleman off).
I've read through most of CoT myself - been a while, but I think I was up to the point where everything started exploding. So do you mean,
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It always seemed funny to me, that in a magic rich environment, that the upper class would not incorporate magic into clothing. Light, fire, smoke, shadows, would all be great affects on clothing.
That's an interesting thought. It could be something along the lines of the ceremonial outfits from the Hunger Games movies, or the holocaust cloak from The Princess Bride.
Here are some other high-tech dress effects that could be replicated with magic.
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You should totally ask Wayne Reynolds thoughts on his sticky thread here. He thinks a lot about older era design and what they are like in collation.
There's a massive real - life costume diversity in Pathfinder. With fashion styles based upon periods of real - life history ranging from 3rd century AD to early 18th century AD (Approximately) Depending upon the in - game region.
As of yet, I've not illustrated a Golorian equivalent of a 19th century tailored suit. I suspect if such a thing existed in Golorian (And I've no doubt that it probably does) then it'll have distinct medieval / renaissance aspects that fits with the Pathfinder visual aesthetic.Galtic fashion (As worn by Aric) comes fairly close. It's loosely based upon 16th century Western European designs. But may be too decorative for a tailored suit.
Whilst Varisia and Cheliax resembles 14th or 15th century styles.
I would suggest that the sober and high-collared fashions of Ustulav might come the closest.
(Erasmus the Iconic Medium is wearing Ustalavian fashion though his outfit has a rural aspect to it rather than what someone may attribute to noble attire.)
However, you'd have to work out where your character would put all their equipment. As I tend not to include pockets into my medieval fantasy costume designs. I find that pockets make a costume look much too modern. Hence Pathfinder characters tend to wear pouches and bags.
I really like Dr Styx's suggestion that nobles might incorporate magical effects to their costumes. In a high fantasy setting it makes complete sense that they would do so. To some extent, they already do. Though it's not usually overtly flashy.
Perhaps small Bags of Holding strategically sewn on the inside of a tailored suit would preserve those pristine lines?
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Perhaps small Bags of Holding strategically sewn on the inside of a tailored suit would preserve those pristine lines?
That's another interesting idea.
I find that pockets make a costume look much too modern. Hence Pathfinder characters tend to wear pouches and bags.
A quick Google search suggests that pockets sewn into clothing appeared in the 18th century, and they only reached their current level of popularity in the early 20th century. Before the 18th century, some pouches were worn underneath clothing and accessed through slits, but they were still separate items.
based upon periods of real - life history ranging from 3rd century AD to early 18th century AD (Approximately)
Ok, that explains the long coats and naval uniforms from Skull & Shackles. Some of them have pockets, and they struck me as oddly modern at times.
It always seemed funny to me, that in a magic rich environment, that the upper class would not incorporate magic into clothing. Light, fire, smoke, shadows, would all be great affects on clothing.
Maybe that's because most campaigns don't take place in the Tippyverse, or any world that's "magic rich" in the way you're thinking of.
Maybe because magic is relatively rare and expensive, most of it tends to be found battle magic, rather than made to order in a Magic Mart.
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It always seemed funny to me, that in a magic rich environment, that the upper class would not incorporate magic into clothing. Light, fire, smoke, shadows, would all be great affects on clothing.Maybe that's because most campaigns don't take place in the Tippyverse, or any world that's "magic rich" in the way you're thinking of.
Maybe because magic is relatively rare and expensive, most of it tends to be found battle magic, rather than made to order in a Magic Mart.
I dunno, I think Dr Styx has a point. In some countries like say Nirmathas, you probably wouldn't find clothes like that. But in other countries with a lot of magic like Nex or countries where the nobility go out of their way to show off their wealth like Taldor, it would be perfectly believable that they might incorporate magic, however minor, into their outfits.
Minor illusion or transmutation magic to make colors swirl and change across their outfits, or maybe the outfit changes based on the mood their in. Like a jewelry, it could just be another thing to flaunt wealth.
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Tippyverse
Tippyverse, a place where you go to see Pink Elephants on Parade.
Usually after partaking in large quantities of Fay Leaf.I like it.
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